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Surely chefs etc have transported large knives in their vehicle.
Pretty much anything can be a weapon.
What a Horrible place to live......and or work.Yes the same ones. in fact according to the law anyone in the vehicle with you can be presumed to be also be in possession and that option would be presented to a jury for consideration. That can be a problem if no one admits to ownership. I would just respectfully refuse to allow the vehicle to be searched. If it's in plain sight then you may have a problem.
In NYC carrying ANYTHING with the intent to use it as a weapon aside from a tiny canister of weak pepper spray or a pistol with a concealed carry permit (very hard to get in NYC,) is illegal. For example telling a policeman you carry a pen because it can also be handy for self defense can get you a weapons charge based on intent.
The dirk and dagger law is vague but a double edged knife is a sure bet to be considered a weapon. Any knife purpose built as a weapon, or even marketed as a weapon can easily fall into this category or be a gray area that sends you to court to figure it out.
Switch blade knives are only legal going to and from a fishing trip with a fishing license (less than 4 inches and not designed as a weapon.) I wouldn't try my luck though.
NEW TO NYC ASSISTED OPENING KNIVES ARE NOW CONSIDERED SWITCHBLADES.
TO BE LEGAL A KNIFE HAS TO HAVE A BLADE LESS THAN (less than remember that) 4 inches. Anything 4 inches or more (MUST BE LESS THAN 4 INCHES) is illegal. In NYC take my advice you best measure that from the the tip to the bottom the blade including the unsharpened portion unless you want an anti knife judge to work that out that little detail with you as the defendant.
Fixed blades are legal as long as it's not a dirk or dagger. Same rules, less than 4 inches (LESS THAN specifically worded) and not designed to be a weapon.
NEW TO NYC
GRAVITY KNIVES AND KNIVES THAT CAN BE FLICKED OPEN ARE NOW LEGAL IN NYC DUE TO A RECENT COURT DECISION.
THERE ARE NO MORE ARRESTS FOR KNIVES THAT CAN BE FLICKED OPEN BY A GORILLA WHO IRON GRIPS A BLADE AND HURLES THE HANDLE AWAY FROM THE BLADE TO OPEN IT.
THERE IS A CAVEOT
NYC IS TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH ENFORCING THESE OLD LAWS ON THE SUBWAYS AND BUSSES. THIS AREA OF LAW IS CURRENTLY IN DISPUTE SO CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU CARRY ON THE BUSSES AND SUWAYS OR ANY MTA PROPERTY. YOU MAY NOT WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THIS LEGAL BATTLE.
THEY ALSO WANT TO GO AFTER KNIVES SOLELY BECAUSE SOMEONE MARKETED THEM AS WEAPONS.
THIS BRINGS COLD STEEL TO MIND. COLD STEEL MAKES A LOT OF GREAT FOLDERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT WEAPON ORIENTED BUT SUITED FOR UTILITY PURPOSES. LYNN JUST LOVES TO SHOW IN HIS VIDEOS HOW ANYTHING FROM A SIMPLE SPADE SHOVEL TO A TINY FOLDER CAN BE USED AS WEAPON IN DRAMATIC VIDEOS WHERE PEOPLE SLICE AND STAB ANIMAL CARCASSES AS WELL AS DRIVE UTILITY KNIVES THROUGH MEAT FILLED BOOTS.
WHILE THIS IS ENTERTAINING IT CAN PRESENT A PROBLEM IN COURT CASES WHERE A KNIFES PRIMARY DESIGN AND PURPOSE IS IN QUESTION.
THIS IS ALSO CURRENTLY BEING CHALLENGED
BUTTERFLY KNIVES ALTHOUGH LEGAL IN NY STATE IS SOMEWHAT OF A GREY AREA IN NYC MEANING THAT THEY HAVE ARRESTED PEOPLE IN NYC FOR CARRYING THEM.
NYC HAS ONE OF THE MOST UNUSUAL LAWS PERTAINING TO HOW TO CARRY I HAVE SEEN. IT BASICALLY STATES THAT ANY LEGAL KNIFE IS TO BE CARRIED CONCEALED. THIS MEANS NO POCKET CLIPS OR KEYCHAIN SWISS ARMY KNIVES. IT'S A VIOLATION PROVIDED THE EXPOSED KNIFE IS LEGAL BUT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO REMEMBER.
I DO NOT SEE ANY EXCEPTIONS IN THE LAW MADE FOR BIG LONG CHEF KNIVES ANYWHERE. THEY GENERALLY DON'T ARREST PEOPLE WHO USE THEM FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY CAN IF THEY WANT.
A FINLAL NOTE BE AWARE TELLING ANYONE YOU CARRY ANYTHING FOR SELF PROTECTION IS AN ADMISSION OF INTENT AND YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH CARRYING A WEAPON BASED ON THAT.
STICK TO PLAUSIBLE UTILITY DESIGNS.
When it comes to New York and knife laws, Tom is my go-to guy on these boards! You rock Tom!Greater nice post. I agree with almost all of what you said. The same exemption for the 4" limit is in the NYC Admin Code ( going to and from fishing and some other activities) : https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/newyorkcity/latest/NYCadmin/0-0-0-6303
The switchblade exception ( 265.20#6) has covered all styles of them as they have a defined action and were assumed weapons based on the action, but your design statement makes sense although I have never seen that taken into account. Do you have an example of that? I also agree with your design statements but I have not seen the marketing brought into cases. Have you seen this actually used in court? I have had many discussions on these issues with the NYPD, MTAPD and several ADAs. My close friend runs the DAT desk in one for the five Boros court houses and has a good sense of what is reviewed to determine what moves forward in an arrest and how the statement needs to be worded.
You have a excellent understanding of what goes on in NYC. I am extremely thankful the Gravity Knife law was changed as I saw many people who never had a criminal record get arrested for a knife they bought in a store and never even knew if could be illegal.