O.T. GASOLINE!!!! Y'all be careful ya hear?!?!?!?

Yvsa

Yvsa

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Okay guys and gals, at least those of you who have stored up a few gallons of gasoline. Please be so very careful with the damned stuff. A factoid I picked up over the years is that one gallon of gasoline, if reduced to its vapors and then ignited, would have the explosive power of 40 sticks of dynamite!!!! :eek: :(
And an accident can and does happen before you can say, "DON'T!!!!" as we all know!!!! :(
We get where we take gasoline for granted and the least little thing can set it off, any kind of spark, static electricity, a pilot light on any kind of appliance, an electrical spark, a lighted cigarette, it's scary as to what can ignite the fumes off of gasoline.
If you have gasoline stored in your garage and it is emitting its fumes which are heavier than air and it's been awhile and you should happen to slide across your seat and touch your car door handle and set off a spark it can BLOW!!!!

YOU CANNOT BE TOO CAREFUL WITH GASOLINE!!!!

I damned near killed myself with gas several years ago because I was dousing a place I had been burning with gasoline thinking it was completely out, I was being a Fool!!!!
When the gas ignited it went up with a Whoosh higher than my head.
As I jumped back to get away from the flames the gallon jug I had threw gasoline into the air which ignited and then fell on my right shoulder and down my right arm and a couple of places on my right leg.
I dropped and rolled to get it out and then picked up the running hose to cool what was left of the skin on my arm and shoulder.
I had second and third degree burns and the skin was literally hanging off my arm.
Didn't hurt at all until I got to the hospital and the endorphins wore off and then it was ecstatic pain. Pain so literally ecstatic it can't be described but way beyond the level ten on the 1 - 10 scale used by medical facilities everywhere in the States.
And I knew better than to do such sh*t so that made me a fool. Don't make one out of yourself over trying to save some money, just ain't worth it!!!! :rolleyes: :thumbdn: :mad:

Stupidity = Can't be helped.

Ignorance = Can be taught and remedied.

Foolish = Knowing better and going ahead and doing it anyway.:rolleyes: :( :mad:

I was in the hospital for a week and a half and off work at home for a month before I could go back. Fortunately the company I worked for owed me a months wages so I wasn't out all that much monetarily but I could've been in extremely dire straits had I of been working at the average place.

Please be careful, it only takes an instant and it could be a loved one that could be injured, especially children and no one wants that. You could never forgive yourself.:(
 
I saw on the TV news that a guy was carrying 4 - 2.5 gallon PLASTIC cans of gas in the back floorboard of his car, in case he couldn't get gas. :eek: There was NO mention of how dangerous and stupid this is.

Thanks for the heads up Yvsa. :thumbup:

Steve
 
I won't store the stuff. Not safe...makes me nervous. Kerosene is OK to store, but I am pretty careful with that. Propane I try to store outside. If gasoline gets that scarce, I'll try to do without as opposed to storing 5 to 15 gallons in the garage in hopes of having enough to get through one more week of daily driving. :(

A bit off topic of the thread...but make sure you have enough supplies on hand for whatever you realistically expect. N.O. situation shows loud and clear that governments can not and will not take care of you in a emergency/disaster situation. Expectations otherwise will get you miserable or dead.

Jeff
 
Yuh nSuh?

How the hell did you manage to live this long?

Must one tired Guardian Angel somewhere....




Be well and safe,
 
The Russians, and probably the US too, had a "fuel/air bomb" Sprays out a flammable liquid (gas, kerosene, Jet A? - probably gas 'cause it's most flammable) in a fine mist, THEN ignites it. Big boom, with a serious pressure wave that doesn't do much to hardened structures, but is very lethal. Good for bunkers, caves, and the like because it can get though small openings and twisty passages to cause damage without needing to actually penetrate much rock/concrete.
 
It also sucks ALL the oxygen out of the atmosphere, and lungs, and stuff.

Still current, unless things have changed dramatically.
 
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The one we've got is called a BLU-82 Tohatchi. It's technically not a fuel bomb, it uses an oxidizer and combustible agent to get the job done. They first came up with these back in 'Nam to turn patches of jungle into LZ's, but we've currently been dropping 'em on caves/bunkers over in the 'Stan. I wouldn't want to be on a C-130 toting one of them. If the dang thing went down, there'd be nothing left but a smoking hole. :eek:

Sarge
 
Kismet said:
Yuh nSuh?

How the hell did you manage to live this long?
Must one tired Guardian Angel somewhere....
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I truly believe so Kis my friend. It is obvious that I have been protected many times and for some reason I'm still being kept around but for what I have no idea.:confused: I damned sure ain't anyone special.:o
 
Yuh nSuh?

Don't know exactly why, but...you ARE someone special. You don't know why either. Accept it. It just is.




The "Daisy Cutter" Sarge shows was developed to make a landing site in one bite in 'Nam. It was used in Iraq I, under George the First, as an anti-personal tool. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-82.htm

See, the Iraqi Regular Army would conscript regular folks, workers, store owners, etc. into the Army, get them out to position in the middle of the effing desert, shoot them if they decided to try and desert, and maintain sand berms to protect them from the most mobile armed forces in the history of the world. Then, waaaay high above a B52, C130, or other transport would explain the new rules. Just shove it out the back ramp.

I've not seen casualty figures from Iraq I for the Iraqis. The only mention I heard at the time was ONE statement, from a never-to-be-heard-from-again Saudi Colonel, empathizing with the poor conscripted bastards burned and buried in the sand. I never read any U.S. analysis of how many Iraqis died in '91.

The Republican Guard stayed mobile during the entire event.

That was then. This is now.

And so it goes.
 
Yvsa said:
Pain so literally ecstatic it can't be described but way beyond the level ten on the 1 - 10 scale used by medical facilities everywhere in the States.
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whenever i think of the 1-10 scale of pain, i think of it in much different terms then most hospitals, for me

10 = death
9 = coma
8 = going in and out of conciousness
7 = what most call 10. that sense of unbearableness that can actually start to effect mental stability.

sounds silly, but people dont realize how powerful pain can really be - it can in fact put you into the ground, or into a coma. sensory overload and shock is like overloading an electrical circuit, things can literallly give out.
 
I never did like the number scale. My "5" may be someone else's "3". The doctor's "8" may be my "6".

The first time that they sprung that nonsense on me at medical I asked them what 10 was. The worst pain you can imagine, they said. I replied that I could imagine some pretty terrible pain but that didn't mean that I knew what it felt like. We went back and forth a few times and the doc started getting annoyed, so I let the matter drop. It's never a good idea to piss off the doc.

10 = death, huh? I guess that's pretty much the worst pain that there is, but it makes the whole scale meaningless. I mean, if you were experiencing about an 8.5 or worse, you wouldn't even be able to answer the question. They ought to crank the scale up to 11, with 11 being death.

For some reason I'm thinking of amplifiers and Spinal Tap right now. ;) ("Yes, but this amp goes up to 11...")

FWIW, I'd rate walking on a broken ankle as a 7 (too nauseous to eat due to pain) and getting my nipples pierced as an 8. (Couldn't draw in enough breath to scream, got lightheaded, would've passed out had it lasted for a few minutes.) The latter only hurt for a few seconds though. The ankle's been hurting me for 14 years. :) Learning why an athletic supporter is highly recommended in Tae Kwon Do the hard way earned me a 9. (Yep, I went out like a light and woke up vomiting. It was a really good kick.)

The Satori scale is simpler: it doesn't hurt, it kinda hurts, it hurts a lot, and DEAR LORD MAKE IT STOP. All of the above were DEAR LORD MAKE IT STOP situations.
 
Yvsa, thanks for the gasoline warnings. I just siphoned 45 gals. out of my boat out of necessity- there's no gas to be had at any price on this part of the Gulf Coast. People from Miss. are coming and pumping 55 gal. drums. You can't get mad at them, they're not hoarding like some. There's just no gas stations at all for about a 100 mile destroyed stretch. But, still. Now there's no dayumed gas!

It WAS $3.19, going to $3.25 next time a truck comes. Stations are putting up signs when they THINK they'll get a delivery.

Staying put. Scary; got to go to work. Expensive gas is one thing; complain but buy. We don't have ANY!

Well, I do. :D Boat's been out of the water for a year; finally good for something. Gas is a year old but I put Sta-Bil in it, supposed to make it good for 2 years. Also put STP gas treatment in it.

SO I heeded your warnings. Splashed gas all over my leg, some over the ground. No smoking and washed everything into the ground throughly when done. Overcame the urge to start boat & check gauge.... we'll let those fumes rise for a while.

So if you have expensive gas, frown. Some folks can't get any at any price...


Ad Astra
 
I frequently have 10 level pain (Trigeminal Neuralgia)...it's a level where the most upbeat person seriously considers suicide.

Anything less, such as having my pain specialist insert 4" long needles into the side of my face to get meds in to a small space in my brain stem (yes...a needle stuck all the way in from the jaw joint to the brain stem) mildly noticable by comparison.

A single flash of level 10 will drop a big tough guy to his knees. (trust me)

I once had a level 10 last over 45 minutes at full force.
 
Satori said:
10 = death, huh? I guess that's pretty much the worst pain that there is, but it makes the whole scale meaningless. I mean, if you were experiencing about an 8.5 or worse, you wouldn't even be able to answer the question. They ought to crank the scale up to 11, with 11 being death.

For some reason I'm thinking of amplifiers and Spinal Tap right now. ;) ("Yes, but this amp goes up to 11...")

FWIW, I'd rate walking on a broken ankle as a 7 (too nauseous to eat due to pain) and getting my nipples pierced as an 8. (Couldn't draw in enough breath to scream, got lightheaded, would've passed out had it lasted for a few minutes.) The latter only hurt for a few seconds though. The ankle's been hurting me for 14 years. :) Learning why an athletic supporter is highly recommended in Tae Kwon Do the hard way earned me a 9. (Yep, I went out like a light and woke up vomiting. It was a really good kick.)
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i had a pa that was cut up from 6g to 0g, then from 0g to 7/16" (i did the cutting :rolleyes: ). it wasnt to bad... sure, i hit the wall about 10 minutes into the first one, and about 30 minutes into the second one, but i bore through it. (hitting the wall = going into shock, where your body pumps out massive amounts of sweat, you cant stand up, your stomach and intenstines turn over and almost lose control). same goes for that series of 10 spinal booster shots :(

my brother stated that one of the things that helps pain is the complete realization that it isnt life threatening. once you force yourself to understand that, it helps a lot.

BUT.... the kind of pain that causes death is the kind of pain that sends the body into such an immediate state of shock that it iether causes stroke or a heart attach. its the kind of pain that you can sometimes see coming - such as when you can feel your heart skipping already from a completely shatterd pelvis, and if you just know that if you have something hit it with any amount of force - your heart will probably start skipping a whole lot more then it is.

pelvic shattering for me is about a 8.75, where you wish very much to be in a coma rather then dealing with it.

9 is pretty much reserved for things like bone cancer, or things that keep you in a constant state of blackouts. its so bad that you can hardly speak enough to convey it.

again, i dont think people really ever realize how bad pain can get. such as what nasty mentions, where the nervous system has a systematic overload. it's beyond imagination.



lol "first thing that happens - the room gets very humid". i would say that a good solid kick in the crotch constitutes a temporary 8-9.
 
You're welcome Mike. If my little warning got at least one person to stop and think before doing something that could possibly turn deadly in an instant it was worth posting.:thumbup:

Seth and Dave, I hear you. I don't like the number system either for the same reason.
The last couple of weeks I have been up to an 8 at times which for me the thought of eating or trying to eat brings on hard nausea, the point of throwing up, but mostly has been around a 7 and that's with the meds taken as close together as possible with the addition of tylenol and ibuprofen in theraputic doses as often as possible as well.
When in this mode the cost of our Tums goes up considerably.
The helluvit is that the pain level for me can be at a 6 one day and mean one thing and at an 8 the next day and mean another depending on the type of pain and it's intensity.
I always let the Dr's. know when they ask the last time I took my pain meds. A 7 an hour after taking meds is different than what the pain is just before you can take the next dose.
I used to take the breakthrough pain meds just when I needed them but now it's every 6 hours whether I need them or not to try and keep the pain at bay.
Right now I'm feeling pretty good, about a 5 - 5-1/2 and I took my meds a couple of hours ago. I'm also setting here typing this with my Neurostimulator hooked up to 8 electrodes on my back inserting electrical impulses into my back. It hurts, but hurts good.:thumbup: ;) :D
I just wish the batteries lasted longer than an hour plus a few minutes and that I could adjust the intensity to a higher level on my low back.If that were the case I'd run the thing all the time!!!! The device will take a level 6 pain down to about a level 2 while it's running. I can handle level 2 just fine.:thumbup: :D :cool:
 
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