Of interest to some of the older members

I guess Bill thought he was real. He wasn't. Yangdu knew the truth in the last months of Bill's life, but it wasn't important enough to mention. Ness came back and made a mild splash, was revealed, and left HI forum. Now we have a thread about the skeleton. That's OK with me, but let's remember it's a Halloween Skeleton, and was never real, and has gotten more ink and paper devoted to it than it deserves. Just a funny or not so funny flake chapter of our lives, make that a sentence, that wasn't what it appeared to be.




munk
 
Just Halloween. Besides- there are real men and women who do risk their lives for our Nation and the link is a reminder how prescious that is and how crazy civilization drives some of us.


munk
 
There are some very strange people out there.

I remember this guy. Seems like he wanted to live in a movie.

Personally I would just like to be Lex Luthor as in Smallville. But I have too much hair.
 
The link posts Mr. Ness' Social Security Number and other private personal information. Mr. Ness has been banned from Bladeforums and can not reply to what is said about him here.

Regardless of the truth or falsehood of the claims, I find this kind of witchhunt distasteful.
 
I understand Howard...but those who lost their lives in the line of duty cannot speak either.

Distasteful? Yes.

Needed? Absolutely.
 
I think I am going to delete the link.

I will PM or email to regulars if they request it.

Mike L.
 
We were discussing how this thread is going to be allowed to slip off into obscurity, if I recall correctly. Everybody pretty much knew the score already and this game is played out. Let it die.
 
It is not a 'witchhunt' for a community of people who where lied to by an individual to acknowledge the truth.

By using the word 'witchhunt' to describe that commuinity taking awareness, the moral truth is lost and the evil assigned to good people. That is a distortion and overreaction.

Mr. Ness pulled the wool over a good man's eyes, Bill's. But not ours, and not Yangdu's. We are moving on. My only question about this thread was why bother? People must have felt wronged still, for this to come up. That is an acceptable way to feel- I can understand that, can't we all? Our Armed forces are disgraced by an imposter.

What is a bigger disgrace is for anyone to attempt to shame good people for natural outrage.

munk
 
Howard Wallace said:
The link posts Mr. Ness' Social Security Number and other private personal information. Mr. Ness has been banned from Bladeforums and can not reply to what is said about him here.

Regardless of the truth or falsehood of the claims, I find this kind of witchhunt distasteful.
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Don't know the gent in question, but I'm with Howard. If I've got a problem with a feller, I prefer to talk to him, not about him. If the guy's banned, he can't get up to any mischief here. Let him go in peace

Sarge
 
There are sometimes things a Community needs to do, that an individual will not agree with.

The link is gone, and this thread is in peace.



munk
 
munk said:
It is not a 'witchhunt' for a community of people who where lied to by an individual to acknowledge the truth.

By using the word 'witchhunt' to describe that commuinity taking awareness, the moral truth is lost and the evil assigned to good people. That is a distortion and overreaction.

Mr. Ness pulled the wool over a good man's eyes, Bill's. But not ours, and not Yangdu's. We are moving on. My only question about this thread was why bother? People must have felt wronged still, for this to come up. That is an acceptable way to feel- I can understand that, can't we all? Our Armed forces are disgraced by an imposter.

What is a bigger disgrace is for anyone to attempt to shame good people for natural outrage.

munk
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No one need feel shamed if they disagree with my assessment of a situation. I have been wrong many times before.

It is interesting to note that when Munk’s real name was posted in the thread at http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398109&page=2 , post 54 , it was promptly removed with the comment “My legal name edited out of this post.”

In this thread a link was posted to a website where not only the name of a previous forumite, but also his:

Photographs
Phone numbers
Address
Social security number
Scans of identity documents
Family member’s name
Family members address
Description of family properties

were posted, apparently without the ex-forumite’s consent. The post was commented on by moderators but the information link was not removed by them. Apparently a distinction was drawn between the case where personal information was removed and the one where it was allowed to stay. (It has now been removed from this thread by the original poster himself. )

Disseminating this information on the HI forum appears particularly problematic when a number of forumites have expressed negative feelings related to perceived false claims of military service. What if an angry reader were to use the personal information provided here to cause harm?

A large Fortune 500 corporation recently lost control of thousands of records containing names and SSNs of employees. The response was to purchase 3 years of financial monitoring services for all the affected employees. I’m not certain, but I’m pretty sure the expenditure was motivated more by concern of tort liability and protection of deep pockets than charity. Bladeforums does not have such deep pockets, and the personal information was only linked to from here. Nonetheless it would be interesting to hear what the legal scholars on the forum have to say about possible concerns with disseminating such information on the forum.

I understand the moderator positions, posted above, that the individual whose information was briefly disseminated in this thread has disgraced the US military, and that the “outing” of his personal information was necessary. It is interesting to note that Munk has declared above that my post was even more disgraceful than the actions of the banned and “outed” individual.
 
Sometimes the fantasy world of certain people can become poisonous to them . This poison eventually can no longer be contained by social boundaries and it spills out . It can affect any who come into contact with it . We don,t have to buy into his fantasy to be affected by it . I will no longer post to this thread .
 
Howard,
Your concerns about the SS number are valid.
But my concerns are about a community having the right to self reflect and discuss. This community was injured by fraud, whether or not that is important or even recognizable to you. You defended Ness, as is your perogitive. You also welcomed Benaround back and did him no good service as his under-cover status was injurious instead of him openly petitioning the forum for review. Philosophically, you have major disagreements with both myself and Yangdu about forum policy. On two occasions you restricted forumites from expressing themselves about important matters to them. I do not agree with your restrictions, and you are no longer a moderator.

Your characterization of this thread as a witchhunt was merely blowing your own horn about a perceived higher moral concept.

munk
 
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