Of Knives and Corner Posts

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I've been doing a lot of fence building over the last year, and thought I'd share pictures of some the rough use the BK-9 is subjected to when I'm setting posts.

I like hedge posts for my fences. Hedge (Osage Orange) is a very hard wood that resists rotting. And if you have the trees on your property, a chain saw, and some log chains, they're free. They do, however, require some labor.

Fence building is an art, perhaps the official art of rural America. Yes, so-called artist like to put up sculptures that consist of random bits of metal welded together or oddly painted panda bears on street corners in big cities and call it art. But I'm not impressed. Farmers have been erecting sculptures on road corners at least since the invention of barbed wire in the 1860's. A good fence is a monument to a landowner's constructive prowess, their dedication to hard work, a testament to their dominance over the whims of livestock. And a bad fence serves as a long term reminder of the builders incompetence.

Every farmer has their own unique methods and philosophies of fence building. I'll now give you a brief glimpse of some of my fence building techniques, and they happen to involve knife use.

I like my posts set 4 feet deep (as deep as the auger will go, plus a little bit more).

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For barbed wire fences, I use a corner post and a brace post with a galvanized pipe as the brace bar. If you pay attention to fences when you're out driving around, you'll notice that brace bars often come loose. Not mine. I drill a hole with a 1 1/2 inch spade bit and put the ends of the pipe in the holes. As long as the posts are intact, the brace bar cannot fall out.

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A Vic Farmer and some paracord make a fine plumb bob to check that the post is straight. Then put the dirt back in the hole and tamp. Tamping is the key, the most important part of all fencing. I have strong opinions on tamping which I will not delve into here.

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Next I need a notch to hold the tightening wire.

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Then wrap the wire.

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Then I need to cut a good stick.

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Run it through the wire and tighten.

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On this post, my gate hinge came up a little short.

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I can't make the bolt longer, but I can make to post narrower.

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This is what the tang extension is for; batoning point first.

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Now it fits.

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I don't know if you intended it to be funny, but using a plumb bob to check the straightness on a crooked hedge pole gave me a pretty good chuckle.

This post reminded me of helping my great grandfather fix and build fences on the farm many years ago. I was the lucky kid who got to fill in and tamp the holes. Thanks for the bringing back those memories..



Fantastic thread. Seeing all that green has me thinking warm thoughts.:thumbup:
 
I have strong opinions on tamping which I will not delve into here.

SS, from a moderator's perspective, I appreciate you not stirring up trouble. A heated tamping dust-up is the last thing we need.
 
Very nice SS!
I bet that 9'er comes in very handy around the farm.
 
Nice.

Reminds me of when we fenced in grandma's 1 acre veg garden and dug all the fence posts by hand. I was never so sore!

... with a galvanized pipe as the brace bar.
Field fence novice wonders ... why not a hedge post as a brace bar?
 
Thanks to all for the compliments.

SS, from a moderator's perspective, I appreciate you not stirring up trouble. A heated tamping dust-up is the last thing we need.

Last time there was a tamping flap we had two bannings and three divorces.

It was difficult for me, but I thought I should refrain from soapboxing proper tamping methods.


Nice.

Reminds me of when we fenced in grandma's 1 acre veg garden and dug all the fence posts by hand. I was never so sore!


Field fence novice wonders ... why not a hedge post as a brace bar?

Many people do use wood brace bars. Then the posts must be notched and the bar nailed or screwed or pinned, and after a few years they often come loose. I just think a drilled hole and pipe lasts longer and doesn't require any hardware.
 
I have some "fond" memories of running barbed wire through the forest, up hills, through juniper shrubs, etc.

"fond" I say. I wouldn't trade them for anything though (time spent with my dad or grandpa, I built fence for/with both of them).

We did it differently, but as you said....a fence is a personal thing.
 
Thanks for a great reminder of time spent with my Dad's partner helping out and getting in the way on his goat farm as a kid...... Loved the goats and despised the sheep he had...... Has anyone met a sharp sheep??????........

Hedge is some tough stuff!!!!!!.....I do like the pipe touch.....


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Those augers are a life saver, wish we'd had one!

That is some nice work. Those Hedge posts look good.:thumbup:

The fences I helped put up were usually T-posts and barbed wire (or hog wire) with some crossties at the gates/corners.
 
I for one think this is just the time and place for a discussion on the tampening. Just the sort of jolt this place needs.
 
Mmm, mmm, mmm! I must say, that is some of the BEST tamping that I have seen in a coon's age.
 

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I for one think this is just the time and place for a discussion on the tampening. Just the sort of jolt this place needs.
So, that is the hot button issue for BK&T, huh? You play a dangerous game, sir.

Mmm, mmm, mmm! I must say, that is some of the BEST tamping that I have seen in a coon's age.
That is like the Mr. Burns (Simpsons) of raccoons.
'Yeeessss, Excellent.....'
 
Thanks everyone. Glad I could could bring back fond memories for several of you. Perhaps someday my fence building will only be fond memories. At times, I worry that it will take me so many years to finish all the fences I want to build that when I finally finish, the fence I started with will be due for replacing, and I'll have to start over again. Hence my tendency for overkill. I don't ever want to build the same fence twice.



Thanks for a great reminder of time spent with my Dad's partner helping out and getting in the way on his goat farm as a kid...... Loved the goats and despised the sheep he had...... Has anyone met a sharp sheep??????........

Hedge is some tough stuff!!!!!!.....I do like the pipe touch.....


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Thanks, Ethan. My wife used to have sheep. When she mentions getting back into sheep, I of course, refuse. Sheep require even more fencing than cattle.



I for one think this is just the time and place for a discussion on the tampening. Just the sort of jolt this place needs.

A good debate on the proper tamping method has been known to cause shortness of breath, high blood pressure, irritability, and even heart conditions. Of course, the proper tamping method on a summer day causes the same effects.
 
Thanks Shadow, great pics man. Definately brings back memories for me helping my cousins and Auncle build a round yard for his horses. Fencing can definately be labour intensive, great to see the BK9 at work as well.
 
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