Offset thumb stud

gine

gine

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I don't sugest using the thumb stud on the offset,It's there but please use the flipper.I was sitting on the couch playing around with my offset which I often do.I desided to use the thumb stud to change things up a little.To get to the point here I was putting enough pressure on the stud to get the spring into action I did this over and over about after the six or so times.The blade got ahead of my thumb.My thumb fell of the stud and took a ride down the hollow ground portion of the blade and stopped at the secondary point where the flat grind meets up to that,the worst route your thumb could take on this style blade.So anyways I abiously got cut it was deep enough to make my bleed down both sides of my hand but I got lucky enough that I didn't need stitches, lesson learned.:eek::eek::D
 
yeah ive had my offsets bite me once or twice. Always me being careless. The offset is definitely a knife to be respected.
 
PURPLEDC said:
yeah ive had my offsets bite me once or twice. Always me being careless. The offset is definitely a knife to be respected.
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yeah... except it applies to any knife. And the worst case for me usually involves a mousetrap. I use that name for traditional slipjoints with nasty closing snaps. I have an original bullet with blades sharper than most modern knives I've ever held. Haven't experience this, but that thing would take your finger half off if you got in it's way at close. no joke, but I'm not going to try. It gives me a chill everytime I close it. respect, fear... whatever
 
There should be no reason to fear using the thumb stud on the Offset. If the pivot is adjusted properly, your thumb should never need to leave the handle.

A while back I posted some instructions and pictures of how to do this with the Spec Bump here.

It works the same way (possibly better) with the Offset. If it doesn't, back the pivot screw off a bit (1/16th of a turn).
 
KD, are the stud lock buttons really intended to be an alternate method of opening at all? I assumed they were there solely for locking/releasing the blade on both my Bump and Offset. I wouldn't want what happened to gine to happen to me, I use the flipper only on both.

Rik
 
I love the Offset, but I wont go near the thumbstuds when opening it. I tryed it a few times, but i wasnt keen on getting my fingers sliced, so i went back to the flipper. Yet one more reason I wont let ANYONE touch it. Not only will they get their prints on it, but knowing my friends, they would use the studs and get injured. not many have the hands to, IMO, handle a knife that size properly.

just my experiance of course, and preferance
 
when I use the thumbstuds on my friend's blackout (the only option on the knife) I use my thumb more as a wedge, and use my thumbnail like a ramp to push the blade up.
 
sixfoot7 said:
KD, are the stud lock buttons really intended to be an alternate method of opening at all? I assumed they were there solely for locking/releasing the blade on both my Bump and Offset. I wouldn't want what happened to gine to happen to me, I use the flipper only on both.

Rik
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I certainly wouldn't think of speaking for K.O. but its hard to imagine that he wouldn't think people would use them as thumbstuds. I prefer using the flipper myself, but I don't have any trouble using the studs. The real danger in using the thumbstuds is if you are used to manually opening a blade with with them. You tend to try and follow through and keep your thumb on the stud. With an assisted knife, the blade will typically outrun your thumb, which later catches up with the edge when the blade stops.

The beauty of opening it the way I mentioned in the other thread is that (like Bookworm mentioned) you are just using your thumb to wedge the stud away from the handle. If I do it quickly, my thumb actually ends up over the pivot and never leaves the handle. There is very little motion involved and if the pivot is right, you can do it with your thumb moving fairly slowly.

Here's the info from the other thread.

kneedeep said:
The Spec Bump is very easy to open with the thumb stud. If you rest your thumb on the back edge of the stud and just slide your thumb forward along the scale, the blade will open. No need to follow the blade out at all, your thumb never needs to leave the scale. Interestingly, when I am getting ready to open the Spec Bump this way, my index finger is wrapped around to the clip and actually resting partly on the flipper. If I just squeeze my index finger a little the knife will also flip open. No need to use the fingertip on the flipper at all.
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kneedeep said:
No problem, here are a couple of pics to illustrate.

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The scales on the Spec Bump are G10, and basically make up the outside, sides of the knife. Just inside the scales are steel liners.

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If you move your thumb in the direction of the arrow (basically following the curved edge of the scale), the blade opens without the thumb leaving the scale.

Alternatively, you can see that my index finger is covering the flipper. If I squeeze my index finger in the direction of that arrow the knife opens. You can just rest your thumb on the pivot screw (the big Torx screw in the middle) when you do this, and it'll just look like the knife opened by itself.
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I'll stick to the flipper thats what is is disigned for.The thumb stud is more of a fail safe if the springs go on the assisted opening.;)
 
I've tried the stud, and my impression was that it was designed as a locking mechanism, not for opening. ???
 
My first assisted opener didn't have a flipper, so I got used to using a thumbstud. Maybe that makes the difference? By the time I got the Offset, I had already had the Mini Mojo and Spec Bump for a while so I had gotten used to the flipper (ya have to use the flipper on the Mini Mojo anyway). I hadn't really bothered to use the thumbstuds on the Spec Bump until around the time I posted to that other thread, but I was impressed at how easy it was to use the studs. When I started playing with the the thumbstuds on the Offset I was even more impressed. The studlock knives should be the smoothest opening Kershaws made, since there is no lock mechanism to cause drag as it opens. It shouldn't take much effort to get it out to that 30 degrees for the Speed-Safe to take over. If it isn't the smoothest (production) knife you have, back the pivot screw off a bit or clean it.

Overall, I'd say that if you can open a Blur without cutting yourself, the Offset and the Spec Bump shouldn't be a problem (you don't have the flipper option on the Blur, after all).
It really doesn't matter anyway, the thumbstuds are just another option for opening it, I'm sure the flipper was meant to be the primary method. :)
 
To me, opening a quick AO folder via the "thumb-studs" is just asking for a cut thumb...At-least that's been MY experience.:eek:.
 
glockman99 said:
To me, opening a quick AO folder via the "thumb-studs" is just asking for a cut thumb...At-least that's been MY experience.:eek:.
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If its got a flipper definitely use it. I'd agree, its safer.

As I mentioned in my (edited) post, the Blur (and a few others, including many A-O customs) don't have flippers.

I've been working on opening those telekinetically, but haven't had much luck yet. My Jedi powers are apparently weak. ;)
 
I mostly use the flipper myself, but maybe I'm just lucky because I've never been cut using the thumbstud. I get enough cuts from my balisongs, which by the way I'd love to see one made by Kershaw.
 
kneedeep said:
gman, I fixed your post for you to match the impression everyone else has given me. ;)
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you got to it before me KD :D

I wonder if all this may be the reason that the Tyrade is designed without the studs. i know that the lock up is reliable on the Offset and other bumb blades. just throwing that out there, even if i done believe it lol
 
still, the blur, blackout, avalanche, and several other AO kershaws are thumb stud only, I've never used a flipper on a kershaw knife, and never been cut by one.
 
KD I did read your Bump post before I posted my reply, and I did try both it and the Offset just to see if I could, and it was no problem, but thanks for reposting it anyway so everyone could see it (sometimes clicking on a link is so difficult and time-consuming :D). I have a Blur which opens easily and safely as well, but the thumbstuds are designed a little differently on it as well, actually the best design for a thumbstud I have ever seen personally (I'm assuming all Blurs have the same, I only own one).

Rik
 
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