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When I saw the 781 my reaction wasn't great. I just couldn't see Omega springs going in and out of that integral frame easily if you needed to disassemble it. Then I saw this...

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Neat solution. It's a concept they've had for a while going back to the elusive 780 (hence the 781 model number here on this all new knife I'd imagine)

(photo credit to user ACAR on BM forum)

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smilk327 said:
That's a very cool design. Any word on what they call that modification?
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Per a BM design engineer, " it's an extension spring on a guide rod"

You guys really should visit the company's own forum (no not on BF, we are already here). Much more activity and participation there.
 
MattWRog said:
Per a BM design engineer, " it's an extension spring on a guide rod"

You guys really should visit the company's own forum (no not on BF, we are already here). Much more activity and participation there.
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Thank you for the invite and the information. I wasn't aware they had anything outside of BF. I'm relatively new here.
 
I am interested in the 781 as well. However, due to the price, I will hold off until I see a few reviews first. I only plan on buying a couple of knives this year and I don't want any disappointments lol
 
neat design. so the spring bar replaces the omega springs? if so i like the idea.
 
It reminds me of a much stronger version of the old Osborne 670 assisted, the one with the torsion bar spring. Interesting to see what the regular production 781 knife will look like.
 
That's significantly cooler than Omega springs, and looks like it might be way easier to service if it's held in by screws.

Still not jonesed on 20cv steel or the Rodeo Drive price.
 
Yes, this was taken from the Benchmade forum. I thought I would share it here. Not my photo or knife; should have said that in the OP. :)

Cypress said:
That's significantly cooler than Omega springs, and looks like it might be way easier to service if it's held in by screws.

Still not jonesed on 20cv steel or the Rodeo Drive price.
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I'm curious, what steel would you prefer? I dig 20cv. Price is steep but seems to be the going rate for integral titanium frame locks.
 
That design should prove to be far more robust than the traditional, and perhaps can be tuned somewhat to personal taste by replacing the spring with one that is shorter or longer, much like they do on a revolver trigger (many use a very similar set up).
 
bluemetalchurch said:
Yes, this was taken from the Benchmade forum. I thought I would share it here. Not my photo or knife; should have said that in the OP. :)



I'm curious, what steel would you prefer? I dig 20cv. Price is steep but seems to be the going rate for integral titanium frame locks.
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I prefer steels with higher edge stability, as they tend to reach higher levels of sharpness. I don't need a $425 knife that holds a working edge forever... I'd much rather have a $425 knife that can take a disgustingly-sharp edge that I touch up every so often. If it has to be stainless, M390 would have been awesome for this knife. It would have been nice to see Benchmade step away from their current crop of steels and use something intriguing like K390 or A11, but that's never been their style.

As for the price, nearly all manufacturers are producing Ti handled knives for a fraction of the 781. Benchmade themselves produce the 761 and the 765 (current personal favorite), both with M390, both with full-Ti handles, and both for $100+ less. The 781 costs more than a Sebenza, and I can guarantee it won't have half the fit and finish.
 
Cypress said:
I prefer steels with higher edge stability, as they tend to reach higher levels of sharpness. I don't need a $425 knife that holds a working edge forever... I'd much rather have a $425 knife that can take a disgustingly-sharp edge that I touch up every so often. If it has to be stainless, M390 would have been awesome for this knife. It would have been nice to see Benchmade step away from their current crop of steels and use something intriguing like K390 or A11, but that's never been their style.

As for the price, nearly all manufacturers are producing Ti handled knives for a fraction of the 781. Benchmade themselves produce the 761 and the 765 (current personal favorite), both with M390, both with full-Ti handles, and both for $100+ less. The 781 costs more than a Sebenza, and I can guarantee it won't have half the fit and finish.
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I get you on steel but I think the key to the price is that it is integral. The 76x series and Sebenza are not integral handled. The Spyderco Nirvana is and costs around $440. It does have S90v but it is made in Taiwan. I think if the fit and finish is there the price is justified compared to the current market. Just my opinion.
 
20cv and m390 are nearly identical steels

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/794254-Bohler-M390-vs-Duratech-20CV

also, this is a titanium integral, not a standard folder. spyderco put out a titanium integral, remember the nirvana? that one was made in Taiwan and it's running around $450. this one's usa made and for less. for what it is, it's actually somewhat of a bargain. the f&f on my 761 was superb, i don't expect this one to be worse.
 
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ginaz said:
20cv and m390 are nearly identical steels

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/794254-Bohler-M390-vs-Duratech-20CV

also, this is a titanium integral, not a standard folder. spyderco put out a titanium integral, remember the nirvana? that one was made in Taiwan and it's running around $450. this one's usa made and for less. for what it is, it's actually somewhat of a bargain. the f&f on my 761 was superb, i don't expect this one to be worse.
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I understand all of that. Integral isn't a selling point to many. In fact, possibly the opposite if there are centering issues, as I can usually work those out myself on a normal folder.

As for the steel, I know they are alike, but Benchmade is running their 20cv softer than their M390, so they must know something we don't.
 
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