OK - I traded for a ParaMilitary PE - couple of ?

sting7777

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There are no liners on this knife - correct?

The person I traded with mentioned it was a newer version of the Para due to the added support to the pivot area to fix the vertical blade play problem they had in the first gen and the cut out for easier access to the compression lock.

Will this model most likely have the newer PB washers and if not will Spyderco send them out to me?

Also - is the pivot still eccentric like on the Miiltary?

Looking forward to me first "real" spyderco. G-10, S30V and PB - my favorite recipe. :D
 
ok cool - so the "nested lock" is really like the axis mech in that its the lock plus some skeletonized liners. that makes more sense.
 
uh, no, it's sort of an upside down liner lock that wedges itself between the blade and the stop-pin.

The Para does not have an eccentric pivot nor an eccentric stop-pin. However, somefound that tweaking with the stop pin sometimes made a difference, but that has probably other reasons.
New ones have the PB washers, not because of blade-play, but because the first batches where a bit gritty in action.

Enjoy yours!
Ted
 
Ted Voorde said:
uh, no, it's sort of an upside down liner lock that wedges itself between the blade and the stop-pin.

I guess I'll just have to wait and check it out when it arrives... thanks for the info
 
Sting, I think you're going to like the compression lock. I think it should be more reliable than an Axis lock beecause the design is simpler.

Eccentric pins. Hmmm. Sal says the pivot screw is not eccentric. I originally thought the one on my first Para was eccentric, but it turned out I was wrong. However, the one on my second Para definitely is. I have put a mark on the screw, and by turning the pivot pin I can get the lock bar to move closer to the opposite side and back again. And it does this predictably, to the same degree depending upon its position in the rotation. Maybe I got a slightly bent screw or one that's eccentric when it shouldn't be.

Just last night I was playing with the stop pin (you need 2 #6 torx). By turning it 90 degrees, I was able to change the position of the lock bar from about 3/4 of the way to the opposite scale to about 1mm from the lock bar side -- a big difference. But I'm waiting for Sal to say that its not eccentric either! Again, it could be a fluke, but on mine it's predictable and repeatable.

Edited to add:
Last night I inspected the stop pin with a magnifier and found out why it behaved as it did. The place where it was originally touching the tang (which also had a line of grease) was slightly flattened. But, I'm not sure it was from opening -- the flat spot appears to have been ground onto the pin, i.e. it consists of parallel stratches. So, was this done purposely to get an optimum lockup? :confused: Looking at the lock I suppose it would be at its strongest when the lock bar is close to the middle.
 
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