Recommendation? Ok, so I guess I kinda love knives. Now what?

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So, it took me about 40 years to finally accept that fact about myself. Growing up in the urban areas of Stockholm, the capital of Sweden, during the 80’s we kids got the message that knives were dangerous and something that mostly criminals were interested in. (Granted, there were more than a few knife fights in the city back then which resulted in strict knife laws).

I didn’t want to be a bad kid so I stayed away from knives. But in hindsight, I was incredibly drawn to blades. Ever since I was 6 and found my fathers old survival knife from his days in the military (a knife he kept for 40 years), I just loved the feeling of holding a knife in my hand. I was curious about weight, design, different types of blade shapes etc but it also made me feel stuff. I felt safe, I felt capable. I felt less “naked”. I just never accepted that’s how I actually felt. Sounds weird and even a bit dramatic, I know. But there was a huge amount of subconscious shame and guilt associated with this. Like by being this drawn to blades I was somehow a “bad man”.

This resulted in me pushing down my curiosity but still ending up buying a dozen or so different knives. Nothing special, mostly Mora, opinel, some basic gerbers. The weird thing is, i did those purchases kinda “on autopilot”.
But a couple of weeks ago when my wife asked me I wanted for my birthday, I spontaneously answered: “The knife”. Not “a” knife, but “the” knife. My wife looked at me with that look that every married man knows. (Wtf are you talking about?).
I guess what I really wanted was to reclaim a part of me that’s wasn’t really socially accepted. Allowing myself to invest in a good knife thus becomes a symbolic act of self acceptance.
But also, I want the knife that my kids might find one day snooping around my “off limits stuff”.
All part of a normal midlife identity crisis.

After doing a ton of research online I ordered a White River Ursus 45, which I’m still waiting for but looks amazing. (Let me tell you, It is NOT readily available in Sweden or even Europe.) Even though I spend my weekdays in a suit at the office or picking up kids, I find myself spending more and more free time in the woods and also just booked my first deer hunt in seven years. Seems your true nature always catches up with you in the end, and this might be the perfect companion.

Also, in opposition to most parents around my neighborhood who tell their kids to “STAY AWAY FROM KNIVES”, I decided to go the other way and teach my daughters, 3 and 6, how to safely hold and use a knife. They may or they may not inherit my love for it, but at least they have the option.

Naturally, I started having thoughts and questions. “Are there others like me? Who inexplicably just loves holding a knife? Cuz, like who the hell else would do that?”
Well, turns or there’s a really great forum for people like me here 😄😄😄.

Not sure if this at all resonates with anyone else here. It just felt good to write it out.



While I’m at it though, I would like to ask for some recommendations. I’m having the privilege to do some traveling this year. I’ll be going to

Rome, Italy (by myself)

Malaga, Spain (with family)

Cape Town, South Africa (business)


This time, I thought I’d have a look at picking some knives related to those areas! Since imported knives are really expensive in Sweden it might give me the opportunity to get a better knife than but here. In addition to the experience of getting a local item! I’m really interested in advice for those of you who are initiated. I did some research online but it’s hard to get to the good info. For example on Italian hunting knives.

What I would like is

1. A hunting knife for deer, preferably with a more classic feel rather than “tactical” (Already own a Fällkniven F1). Maybe a wood handle?

2. A gentleman’s pocket knife. Not too big. Maybe with some beautiful detail like a handle in horn or bone or fine wood

3. Any traditional, country/area specific knife

Total budget: around 300-400€ (absolute max 500€)

I know it’s a broad question and I don’t want to demand too much of your time. But if you do have some tips or input, I’d really appreciate it!

Thanks
JG

PS. God it felt good to get that out… 😅
 
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Congratulations!!!!!! I'm also a Knife knut......My name is James......... I can identify with all of that... I grew up In NYC..... BORN IN 70, Fortunately. My family has had a house in the Adirondack mountain for 55+ yrs upstate NY so I can.let my inner red neck out........

Between the cops, the crooks, the mafia.and every other damn thing back then, knives got a bad RAP.....
I didn't necessarily help straddling that line in the sand between legal and not.......

Welcome and enjoy.... Lots of great folks and information about......👍
 
So, it took me about 40 years to finally accept that fact about myself. Growing up in the urban areas of Stockholm, the capital of Sweden, during the 80’s we kids got the message that knives were dangerous and something that mostly criminals were interested in. (Granted, there were more than a few knife fights in the city back then which resulted in strict knife laws).

I didn’t want to be a bad kid so I stayed away from knives. But in hindsight, I was incredibly drawn to blades. Ever since I was 6 and found my fathers old survival knife from his days in the military (a knife he kept for 40 years), I just loved the feeling of holding a knife in my hand. I was curious about weight, design, different types of blade shapes etc but it also made me feel stuff. I felt safe, I felt capable. I felt less “naked”. I just never accepted that’s how I actually felt. Sounds weird and even a bit dramatic, I know. But there was a huge amount of subconscious shame and guilt associated with this. Like by being this drawn to blades I was somehow a “bad man”.

This resulted in me pushing down my curiosity but still ending up buying a dozen or so different knives. Nothing special, mostly Mora, opinel, some basic gerbers. The weird thing is, i did those purchases kinda “on autopilot”.
But a couple of weeks ago when my wife asked me I wanted for my birthday, I spontaneously answered: “The knife”. Not “a” knife, but “the” knife. My wife looked at me with that look that every married man knows. (Wtf are you talking about?).
I guess what I really wanted was to reclaim a part of me that’s wasn’t really socially accepted. Allowing myself to invest in a good knife thus becomes a symbolic act of self acceptance.
But also, I want the knife that my kids might find one day snooping around my “off limits stuff”.
All part of a normal midlife identity crisis.

After doing a ton of research online I ordered a White River Ursus 45, which I’m still waiting for but looks amazing. (Let me tell you, It is NOT readily available in Sweden or even Europe.) Even though I spend my weekdays in a suit at the office or picking up kids, I find myself spending more and more free time in the woods and also just booked my first deer hunt in seven years. Seems your true nature always catches up with you in the end, and this might be the perfect companion.

Also, in opposition to most parents around my neighborhood who tell their kids to “STAY AWAY FROM KNIVES”, I decided to go the other way and teach my daughters, 3 and 6, how to safely hold and use a knife. They may or they may not inherit my love for it, but at least they have the option.

Naturally, I started having thoughts and questions. “Are there others like me? Who inexplicably just loves holding a knife? Cuz, like who the hell else would do that?”
Well, turns or there’s a really great forum for people like me here 😄😄😄.

Not sure if this at all resonates with anyone else here. It just felt good to write it out.



While I’m at it though, I would like to ask for some recommendations. I’m having the privilege to do some traveling this year. I’ll be going to

Rome, Italy (by myself)

Malaga, Spain (with family)

Cape Town, South Africa (business)


This time, I thought I’d have a look at picking some knives related to those areas! Since imported knives are really expensive in Sweden it might give me the opportunity to get a better knife than but here. In addition to the experience of getting a local item! I’m really interested in advice for those of you who are initiated. I did some research online but it’s hard to get to the good info. For example on Italian hunting knives.

What I would like is

1. A hunting knife for deer, preferably with a more classic feel rather than “tactical” (Already own a Fällkniven F1). Maybe a wood handle?

2. A gentleman’s pocket knife. Not too big. Maybe with some beautiful detail like a handle in horn or bone or fine wood

3. Any traditional, country/area specific knife

Total budget: around 300-400€ (absolute max 500€)

I know it’s a broad question and I don’t want to demand too much of your time. But if you do have some tips or input, I’d really appreciate it!

Thanks
JG

PS. God it felt good to get that out… 😅
Welcome, you're among friends here. 😉

If you're going to be in Italy, I would look at the modern/traditional knives made by Lionsteel and Viper. In Spain, if I were you I would try to track down a Navaja if you can find one. South Africa has several custom makers that produce beautiful knives, including Arno Bernard. I know they've switched to mostly (extremely nice) folders now, but they've also made some beautiful fixed blades that might suit your search for a more traditional hunting knife.
 
Welcome! I can't help you on your search for knives, because in my opinion you come from the land of excellent knives.
I'm a big fan of the knives of Norway, Sweden and Finland.
The humble Morakniv in particular has a special place in my heart.

We're all ambassadors of knife culture, and I work really hard to propagate the "knife as necessary tool" philosophy.
I wish you luck on your quest for more knives!
 
A couple hundred kilometers up the road from Malaga is the City of Albacete, where there's a huge concentration of knife manufacturers, custom makers, and knife retail stores (Joker, Cudeman, etc). Just Google "Albacete knife manufacturers" and you'll find a densely packed neighbourhood of all things sharp and pointy. There's even a museum there that focuses on the history of cutlery in the region: https://www.museocuchilleria.es/en/


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Greetings and welcome. When are you coming to Cape Town?
 
Welcome. Turn around now if you don't want to go down the rabbit hole.

This advice is worth only what you pay for it....

My favorite hunting pattern is the Loveless Drop Point. It's in my avatar, and I own a number of the dame pattern by different makers. My most used is one I got from Bill Davis (now deceased) that's been with me all up and down the West Coast, including Canada and Alaska. The one pictured below is by a maker on this board. He's outside your price range, but look around; Beretta made a run of this pattern with a nice figured wood handle and you can find them at a reasonable price. They're good knives, I used on in my kitchen for years.

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I hate the term "gentleman's knife" because there's no set definition. But IMHO it should be a "class" act. Something old, something above the ordinary, something, if not unique, apart from the crowd. The engraved pen-knife on a watch chain, the pearl lobster pattern, a top quality knife. I prefer the Congress pattern, like Abe Lincoln used, (though I prefer just 2 blades). These come in very different covers (scales, handles, etc). Here are some examples. I suggest you look for a very well made knife in your preferred pattern, and I'll recommend Fight'n Rooster as every well made, and their mother of pearl is world class. Not a major collector item, so prices are reasonable. (second from the top)

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Country specific? Check these threads out:


There are other threads, mainly in the traditionals forum, usually by maker. But don't overlook kitchen knives. I have a number of them from different places, most recent and often used being a small paring knife I picked up in Portugal.

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Welcome, you're among friends here. 😉

If you're going to be in Italy, I would look at the modern/traditional knives made by Lionsteel and Viper. In Spain, if I were you I would try to track down a Navaja if you can find one. South Africa has several custom makers that produce beautiful knives, including Arno Bernard. I know they've switched to mostly (extremely nice) folders now, but they've also made some beautiful fixed blades that might suit your search for a more traditional hunting knife.
Thanks!
I had a look and the Lionsteel look great and seem to have a solid reputation but a really wide range of knives. Guess I’ll try to find a store in/around Rome where I can actually hold a couple.
Yeah, the Arnos look amazing. A bit above my price range from what I saw. Knowing myself I’ll probably get hooked though and slowly shift my perceptions about “decent pricing” 😂

Do you have anything from lion, viper, fox, maserin or any of the other italianos? Any model you particularly fancy?

Thanks again
 
Thanks!
I had a look and the Lionsteel look great and seem to have a solid reputation but a really wide range of knives. Guess I’ll try to find a store in/around Rome where I can actually hold a couple.
Yeah, the Arnos look amazing. A bit above my price range from what I saw. Knowing myself I’ll probably get hooked though and slowly shift my perceptions about “decent pricing” 😂

Do you have anything from lion, viper, fox, maserin or any of the other italianos? Any model you particularly fancy?

Thanks again
I'm very fond of the Viper Dan double detent knives. The can be nice, little gentleman's folders and they have really handy blade shapes. I've also had their Keeper and Rhino models and both were very, very nice.

Had a couple of Foxes, too, and they were both excellent, though they didn't have quite the fit and finish of the Lionsteel and Viper knives that I've owned.
 
Welcome! I can't help you on your search for knives, because in my opinion you come from the land of excellent knives.
I'm a big fan of the knives of Norway, Sweden and Finland.
The humble Morakniv in particular has a special place in my heart.

We're all ambassadors of knife culture, and I work really hard to propagate the "knife as necessary tool" philosophy.
I wish you luck on your quest for more knives!
Thanks.
Yeah Scandinavian knives seem to have a god rep internationally. To me it’s just a bit too close to home to be interesting. They’re mostly rational, practical and functiona tools. Like most other stuff around here. But I always feel there’s something lacking in terms of, you know, those things that can’t be measured or specified in a product description. Like a pretty Swedish blonde with a blank stare in her eyes while she talks about ikea. Something’s missing.
I know I’m ranting but I get to do that since I grew up in it 😁
 
Congratulations!!!!!! I'm also a Knife knut......My name is James......... I can identify with all of that... I grew up In NYC..... BORN IN 70, Fortunately. My family has had a house in the Adirondack mountain for 55+ yrs upstate NY so I can.let my inner red neck out........

Between the cops, the crooks, the mafia.and every other damn thing back then, knives got a bad RAP.....
I didn't necessarily help straddling that line in the sand between legal and not.......

Welcome and enjoy.... Lots of great folks and information about......👍
Thanks. Happy to hear that you get me on that point. Wasn’t sure I made any sense haha
 
A couple hundred kilometers up the road from Malaga is the City of Albacete, where there's a huge concentration of knife manufacturers, custom makers, and knife retail stores (Joker, Cudeman, etc). Just Google "Albacete knife manufacturers" and you'll find a densely packed neighbourhood of all things sharp and pointy. There's even a museum there that focuses on the history of cutlery in the region: https://www.museocuchilleria.es/en/


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Thanks!
I heard about that town!
I’ll be in Malaga for ten days so maybe a day trip up north could work.
Those knives look really nice btw. What models are the second and fourth from the top?
Thanks again!
 
Thanks.
Yeah Scandinavian knives seem to have a god rep internationally. To me it’s just a bit too close to home to be interesting. They’re mostly rational, practical and functiona tools. Like most other stuff around here. But I always feel there’s something lacking in terms of, you know, those things that can’t be measured or specified in a product description. Like a pretty Swedish blonde with a blank stare in her eyes while she talks about ikea. Something’s missing.
I know I’m ranting but I get to do that since I grew up in it 😁
Hahaha, well I guess we always want what we don't have, right?
Growing up in the US where flashy is the status quo, I've been finding beauty in simplicity.
 
I'm very fond of the Viper Dan double detent knives. The can be nice, little gentleman's folders and they have really handy blade shapes. I've also had their Keeper and Rhino models and both were very, very nice.

Had a couple of Foxes, too, and they were both excellent, though they didn't have quite the fit and finish of the Lionsteel and Viper knives that I've owned.
Great, thanks! I’ll check those out.
The DAN seems like a pretty useful piece. Did you use the rhino? Looks pretty unique?
 
Hahaha, well I guess we always want what we don't have, right?
Growing up in the US where flashy is the status quo, I've been finding beauty in simplicity.
Yeah, that seems to be a general problem 😆
Don’t get me wrong though: I’m really not into flashy stuff. I really like the simplistic schools of design. But not boring…
I see, from your surname I figured you lived in Denmark. But maybe a descendant?
 
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