Ok, So i've been drinking a bit

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but all this talk of angles confuses me.

lets say you're driving down a road and someone says "make a 90 degree turn"

duh! do they mean included or 90 degrees?

ok, so you're flying along and air traffic control tells you to make a 30 degree right had turn to avoid traffic.

are they talking turn 30 degrees right now to avoid a mid air crash or do they want you to do the math and figure "included" ?

my protractor doesn't have "included" on it anywhere?

help, is 30 really 60 off the center line of the blade or is 30 really 30 off of one side of the blade?

huh, confused? :confused::confused::confused:
 
Yeah, what he said :confused: :confused: :confused: Although, at work last night it was one degrees and I totally got that :eek:
 
Bad skunk. You've been listening to nozh2002. It's 2008 now and in a little more than a week, it will be 2009. Ignore him, and that includes his angles. OK?

NOW you can go back to drinking in peace.
 
There is never peace when Skunk is drinking, just ask Vicki!!! :eek:


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When two lines meet at a common point (vertex) the angle between them is called the included angle. The two lines define the angle. So for example in the figure above we could refer to the angle ∠ABC as the "included angle of BA and BC".

Or we could refer to " BA and BC and their included angle".

Here Endeth The Lesson :D
 
What's he sayin' ?? :confused:

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When two lines meet at a common point (vertex) the angle between them is called the included angle. The two lines define the angle. So for example in the figure above we could refer to the angle ∠ABC as the "included angle of BA and BC".

Or we could refer to " BA and BC and their included angle".

Here Endeth The Lesson :D
 
Personally I blame all this confusion on the different ways angles are used in Lansky sharpening systems and Spyderco's sharpmaker system. Lansky because they use one stone and you have to turn over the knife to the other edge talk of the angle of the stone to the edge...or to simple folk like me....the sharpening angle...let's say 20 degrees.

Spyderco because it seems to me that they perhaps have two ceramic stones in a V shape talk of the edge angle....which if sharpened on both sides at 20 degrees is 40 degrees.

Now we have confusion every time people post on optimum angles for edges because the two measurements are often being referred to in the same post without making it clear what is what.....
 
Personally I blame all this confusion on the different ways angles are used in Lansky sharpening systems and Spyderco's sharpmaker system. Lansky because they use one stone and you have to turn over the knife to the other edge talk of the angle of the stone to the edge...or to simple folk like me....the sharpening angle...let's say 20 degrees.

Spyderco because it seems to me that they perhaps have two ceramic stones in a V shape talk of the edge angle....which if sharpened on both sides at 20 degrees is 40 degrees.

Now we have confusion every time people post on optimum angles for edges because the two measurements are often being referred to in the same post without making it clear what is what.....
exactly, and exactly why i get confused. :thumbup:

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What's the angle of the dangle? That's what I need to know. Is it proportional to the heat of the. . . nevermind.

Forget inclusive angles. ALWAYS quote per-side angles.

Think of it this way - if you were to sharpen the old fashioned way, would you care what the INCLUSIVE angle was or the angle of the blade to the stone? THAT'S the # you quote.
 
help, is 30 really 60 off the center line of the blade or is 30 really 30 off of one side of the blade?

Yes. :thumbup: But honestly, how does any of this help me mount an otter?
 
If you sharpen the blade at the 40 degree setting on the sharpmaker, each side of the blade will have a 20 degree angle.

If it's set at 30 degrees, each side will be at a 15 degree angle.

Keep in mind that that assumes the knife is perfectly straight and that you keep that angle through any curves in the blade, or you are likely to thin it out even more.

40 or 30 inclusive just confuses it.

Now, go pour a winter warmer and don't worry about it, cause if the angle ain't got the dangle, you must acquit.
 
I refer you to the angle of the dangle formula, also provided by professor skunk!

Isn't there an "otter constant" that I need to keep in mind?

From junior high, I remember the otter constant as something like 4.136893, but my memory is really fuzzy nowadays because of all the Titos.

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Just remember that three 90° turns to the right equals one 90° turn to the left. :rolleyes:
 
A man living in a house with an all south view goes for a walk.

He walks one mile due south, turns 90 degrees left, walks three miles, turns 90 degrees left again and walks a further mile. How far from home is he?

Also, what colour is the bear?
 
A man living in a house with an all south view goes for a walk.

He walks one mile due south, turns 90 degrees left, walks three miles, turns 90 degrees left again and walks a further mile. How far from home is he?

Also, what colour is the bear?

Grab a bottle of Pimm's and you can make the bear any color you want!! ;) :D
 
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