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Could be to much charlie mate,
Or Coffee of course.
Get some sleep, it does you good.
They look like jailhouse scabbards....
Nice to make things though.:thumbup:
Spiral
Or Coffee of course. Get some sleep, it does you good.
They look like jailhouse scabbards....
Nice to make things though.:thumbup:
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I like it. Po-Boy all the way!
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These are nicer than jailhouse scabbards. (Trust me on that.)
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Not in England Dave.
But I bow to your Knowledge of US ones.23 hour lock down & 1 inch spyhole in the door, gives time for a bit of work.
There are some very high quality Russian Gulag pieces about. Real custom type work, but made for scrounged/stolen fittings etc.
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Not in England Dave.
23 hour lock down & 1 inch spyhole in the door, gives time for a bit of work.
There are some very high quality Russian Gulag pieces about. Real custom type work, but made for scrounged/stolen fittings etc.
Spiral
Got any pics or links Spiral? I'd be interested in seeing some, especially the Russian Gulag ones.
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Seen a fair few English ones Yvsa but there all in Dartmoor prison Museam or some evidence locker knowadays. {Or buried in the yard or otherwise destroyed. guess a few might still be doing there duty, saw one prison issue blade that was made for making shoes in a workshop in 1913 doing the rounds illegaly still 20 years ago. Must have done a lot of people in that time.
Ive seen a Russisan front shoot switchblade in another collectors collection, made in a gulag with etched panels, but no pictures sadly.
A net search found this thread.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3880&highlight=prison
Ariel mentions a book on Russian prison knives, but I dont know the book myself.
Here a link showing old US prison knife.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3880&highlight=prison
Must admit the commonest looked more like this..
http://www.kk.org/streetuse/shiv7.jpg
Made from disposable safety razor blades, in the uk ones normaly stuck into melted tooth brush handles.
Or just concrete sharpend 6 inch nails or shards of glass with glue soaked cotton sheet wrapped handles.
It all made a bit of a mockery of knife control laws.
Spiral
Ive seen a Russisan front shoot switchblade in another collectors collection, made in a gulag with etched panels, but no pictures sadly.
A net search found this thread.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3880&highlight=prison
Ariel mentions a book on Russian prison knives, but I dont know the book myself.
Here a link showing old US prison knife.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3880&highlight=prison
Must admit the commonest looked more like this..
http://www.kk.org/streetuse/shiv7.jpg
Made from disposable safety razor blades, in the uk ones normaly stuck into melted tooth brush handles.
Or just concrete sharpend 6 inch nails or shards of glass with glue soaked cotton sheet wrapped handles.
It all made a bit of a mockery of knife control laws.
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I see your old belts and raise you half a roll of green duct tape. 
It doesn't have to be pretty to work! And those look plenty tough and well constructed. I like the use of paracord.
It doesn't have to be pretty to work! And those look plenty tough and well constructed. I like the use of paracord.
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Thanks Spiral.
markksr, sorry I didn't comment on your sheaths before. They look like some of my early sheaths when I was scrounging any leather I could get, nothing at all wrong with that.:thumbup:
I came into several feet of old, old, oilfield belt leather, generally thick and tough old horsehide leather. I didn't know it at the time because I knew of nothing else but it was real tough to work with compared to working with new vegetable tanned leather.
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I got turned onto the old leather when I acquired an old and thick leather belt I put my old German belt buckle on. I can't recall what I ever did with the old buckle but wish I had it now, but then that's true of a lot of old things I used to have.
Anyway the old sheaths were servicable and in the end that's all that matters.:thumbup:
markksr, sorry I didn't comment on your sheaths before. They look like some of my early sheaths when I was scrounging any leather I could get, nothing at all wrong with that.:thumbup:
I came into several feet of old, old, oilfield belt leather, generally thick and tough old horsehide leather. I didn't know it at the time because I knew of nothing else but it was real tough to work with compared to working with new vegetable tanned leather.
:grumpy:I got turned onto the old leather when I acquired an old and thick leather belt I put my old German belt buckle on. I can't recall what I ever did with the old buckle but wish I had it now, but then that's true of a lot of old things I used to have.
Anyway the old sheaths were servicable and in the end that's all that matters.:thumbup:
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thank for the kind words all (mostly)
FWIW the Applegate boot knife(center) was my main goal as it came with a kydex sheath which is kinda big/uncomfortable to wear on a belt
works great attached to my work/tool bag (see pic below)
the other two were just for gits and shiggles(like i said i couldnt sleep)
however i think im gonna hit the flea market one of these days and grab some old cheap cowboy boots or something and see what i can do for a smaller kukri
FWIW the Applegate boot knife(center) was my main goal as it came with a kydex sheath which is kinda big/uncomfortable to wear on a belt
works great attached to my work/tool bag (see pic below)
the other two were just for gits and shiggles(like i said i couldnt sleep)
however i think im gonna hit the flea market one of these days and grab some old cheap cowboy boots or something and see what i can do for a smaller kukri
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Yep, old Sarge would have liked your Po-Boy ingenuity.
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Digging this old thread up for Yvsa.
Heres a high quality Russian prison made Auto knife.
They call them "zekovskij" a word derived from prisoner apparently.
Spiral
Heres a high quality Russian prison made Auto knife.
They call them "zekovskij" a word derived from prisoner apparently.
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Digging this old thread up for Yvsa.
Heres a high quality Russian prison made Auto knife.
They call them "zekovskij" a word derived from prisoner apparently.
Spiral
WOW!!!! Thanks Spiral. That is way, way, beyond any prison Shivs made here in the USA!!!!:thumbup:
Evidently the Russian prisoner's must have access to more and better resources than their American counterparts ainnit...Actually the whole knife looks very professionally made!:thumbup:
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Yes Yvsa I guess the Gulags in Siberia or on Artic circle islands have to be fairly well equiped & self supporting communities due to thier isolatian.
A lot of skilled men & indeed intelectuals as well used to end up in Russian prisons perhaps?
Prison knives are famous for the skill & hours of labour in Russia. Time is no object.
Spiral
A lot of skilled men & indeed intelectuals as well used to end up in Russian prisons perhaps?
Prison knives are famous for the skill & hours of labour in Russia. Time is no object.
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Yes Yvsa I guess the Gulags in Siberia or on Artic circle islands have to be fairly well equiped & self supporting communities due to thier isolatian.
A lot of skilled men & indeed intelectuals as well used to end up in Russian prisons perhaps?
Prison knives are famous for the skill & hours of labour in Russia. Time is no object.
Spiral
Yup, I believe so Spiral. I somewhat doubt that the USA gets enough prisoners that are that good with talent in design let alone the skill to make something such as this example. There are however some mighty inventive fellows with a lot of ingenuity locked up here.:thumbup:
A good example is my now deceased Uncle's old double bit 'Hawk that was made of a horseshoe rasp and forge welded together over a charcoal forge.
You can tell it was a quick and dirty job because the teeth on the rasp hadn't been hammered down in the eye of the 'Hawk and consequently the handle has too be quite thin to be inserted.
Uncle Bud even went so far as to paint it a dark blue all over. I restored it for my cousin several years ago. I have no idea of how my uncle got it out of the prison when he was released but that was back in the late '30's early 40's when he was released.
And back in those days security wasn't so techie centered and therefore not nearly as tight and/or restrictive as it is today.