Old Boy Scout stone.

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For most of the past year, I've been touching up my pocket knives and kitchen knives on my old Boy scout stone. I found it last year up in the attic in a box of stuff from very long ago. It's one of those gray carborundum pocket stones in a well worn leather case made for carry in the pocket. About an inch and a half wide, about three inches long. I don't know what grit it is, but I am curious. I think it was a bit of nostalgia that got me to use it, but over the past several months I've come to some conclusions.

For many years now, I've used the Eze-Lap diamond hones, like the model L in the 600 grit red plastic handle. But now my knives seem to remain sharper, and cut better when I use the old scout hone. I have no idea what grit the stone is, but it is a course one. I remember when I was a boy scout, that's all we had to sharpen out scout knives and hatchets, but it worked back then. This was way long before there were diamond hones, ceramic stones, and gizmos like sharpmakers, edge makers, or what ever. Yet our hatchets and knives were sharp enough to satisfy our scoutmaster, an old hard corps U.S. Marine named Mr. Van. He was not easy to satisfy.

Now it looks like I've come around in a full circle again. I'm wondering if I will ever go back to a modern sharpener or just stay with my old boy scout carborundum stone. It works better than most things at keeping my knives sharp, and it's field portable. I like to know if I don't make it home, I can resharpen anywhere in a few minutes.

And I like the course toothy edge the stone puts on my knife. I think like a lot of knife nuts, I got carried away for too long on shaving sharp edges that whittled hair. The problem is out in the real world, I'm not whittling hair or push cutting tissue paper. I'm cutting jute or manila twine, breaking down cardboard boxes after shopping trips to Sam's Club, opening plastic bags of mulch or bird seed or dog food, or the once in a while UPS box. Real world stuff. I had forgotten how sharp and grabby an edge you could get a knife with those old stones.

Carl.
 
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When I was a scout, my first scout knife was a cheapo Swiss army knockoff with an even cheaper sharpening stone. I remember all the time spent trying to get that thing sharp. It started my love/hate relationship with knife sharpening. When I could finally afford a real Victorinox, it was like a new world.
I agree with you on the toothier edges. I have been experimenting lately with the same thing. I like a good medium scratch patern, somewhere between toothy and finely polished.
 
That makes alot of sense Jackknife, I never sharpen my knife to a shaving edge. Mostly what I use my knife for is opening feed sacks, cutting open boxes, and cutting thin aluminum when I have to work on a die at my real job.
Paul
 
Is it something like this Carl?
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I know it's not nearly as old as yours but I had mine out and was using it recently. I do agree that it is pretty coarse. I went to put it back in the case and for some reason it wouldn't go in all the way.:confused: I pulled the stone back out and turned the case over. A little yellow piece of plastic that I had never seen before fell out. Turns out it was an angle guide that I hadn't noticed in the 15+ years that I've had it.:D I'm guessing they didn't include those back when you got yours.
 
Is it something like this Carl?
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I know it's not nearly as old as yours but I had mine out and was using it recently. I do agree that it is pretty coarse. I went to put it back in the case and for some reason it wouldn't go in all the way.:confused: I pulled the stone back out and turned the case over. A little yellow piece of plastic that I had never seen before fell out. Turns out it was an angle guide that I hadn't noticed in the 15+ years that I've had it.:D I'm guessing they didn't include those back when you got yours.

YEAH, that's it alright!!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Of course, mine is worn a little concave, and the leather sheath has little holes developing in the lower corners, and the stones surface is worn a little smoother to a bit finer grit. But thats it. Your's you can see the scout embossing in the leather better. Mine is hard to see after all these decades.

No, we didn't have any plastic guides in our kit back then. We had to learn the hard way to free hand it.

I actually like the edge I get off it, nice and toothy for slicing a wide range of materials. I just may stick to basics, and go back to using it from now on. I even still have my old 'official' Plumb hatchet with the scout insignia on the head. Nothing like going back tot he womb, huh?

Carl.
 
You guys still don't have your scout knives?
I still got mine after 36 years.
It's not a bad knife either and still in fairly good shape.
1975 Ulster Eagle Scout knife. I was awarded it when I became an Eagle scout.
Has a chain with the scout oath that attaches to the bail.
I still carry it and use it every so often.
I had a stone that went along with it but it got broken years ago.
Once a scout always a scout.

Stones are all I use to sharpen.
No fancy sharpening systems are needed.
Sometimes the old school way is still the best way.

knives are quiet

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You guys still don't have your scout knives?



Sometimes the old school way is still the best way.

I actually gave my scout knife away. I got it from my dad on my 12th birthday, and used it till I went in the army a year after I got out of high school. It got put away in my sock drawer.

I gave it to my youngest son on his 12th birthday. He's in his late 20's now, and a county police officer. He is still carrying it once in a while on days off. He's being very careful with it, and plans to give it to his son one day.

So, while I don't still have it, strictly speaking, it's still in the family.

And I agree with you totally about the stones. Old school is still better than good!:thumbup:

Carl.
 
That's a nice looking Ulster and looks to be well cared for. I've never had a traditional Scout pattern before. I do have this Camillus BSA Whittler that I got back in Scouts. (Excuse the crappy pic, I need to take some new ones of this knife.)
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I like using both stones and modern powered methods for sharpening. It all depends on what I'm trying to achieve and what I feel like doing. I think there is a place for both types of methods. I will admit that stones are more than capable of doing anything that is truly needed for sharpening and using them is a skill definitely worth acquiring. There are going to be times when you might need a quick touch up on the go or have an emergency where you won't have access to other methods.
 
I had a little one full of oil with the bowed middle from use
I have the scratch marks on my scout knives from this course stone, even if it was called fine.
If knives got worn away it was from sharpening them on stones like this!

Stopped using it when I discovered Arkensaw stones.
Gave it away to someone that needed a small stone to sharpen the penknife I gave them
 
I like my oilstones too.

Being able to really lean into the grinding is nice.... this just messes up waterstones.

A place for everything though.... if you have oil stones give them another try :)
 
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