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Bought the one on the right last fall at a bi-annual Gun&Knife show here.
Bought the other about a month ago at the same Gun&Knife show.
Any comments / observations are appreciated.
I like the looks of both and I really don't care if they are Historical or not.
But I would like to get as much info as I can about them; for the sake of interest & curiosity.
(I always assume something is fake or misrepresented unless I have real evidence otherwise. So I never pay for 'History'.)
The Left is 17", all steel fittings. The Right 16.5".
The Left has two peenings on the pommel cap (which is a pointed oval siloette).
The Right has one peening over a small brass diamond on the brass pommel cap (which is also a pointed oval siloette).
The small diamond has outward creases between opposite points, which give it a kite appearance.
The pommel cap itself has a single outward crease along the longest dimension of the oval.
Left chiruwa / exposed tang, Right enclosed tang.
Neither blade carries any other marks other than mentioned here.
The Right scabbard has very little surface leather remaining, but there is a patch near the throat on the front that faintly shows embrossing of a double-line intersection making an off-center X.
Also, very faintly, double-line embrossings go from top to bottom at the left and right sides of the scabbard on both front and back.
The Left scabbard I was told was patterned very closely on the unusable original, and the badge transferred from old to new.
? Is the broad-arrow 'real'?
I gathered from another thread that it should Not be composed of three seperate stampings.
? Is the 45 'real' / meaningful?
Reviewing the FAQ galleries left me with the impression that this style would be pre-WWII.
? Is the badge 'real' / does it fit the appropriate era / gorkha style? No crossed khuks.
Suspect it was added to the new sheath and likely wasn't actually on the original.
I have found Very Similar repros by Googling, but can't find an Exact match.
? Are the steel-centered brass pins typical / indicative of India manufacture? Or a certain period of manufacture?
Again, any observations appreciated.
Bought the other about a month ago at the same Gun&Knife show.
Any comments / observations are appreciated.
I like the looks of both and I really don't care if they are Historical or not.
But I would like to get as much info as I can about them; for the sake of interest & curiosity.
(I always assume something is fake or misrepresented unless I have real evidence otherwise. So I never pay for 'History'.)
The Left is 17", all steel fittings. The Right 16.5".
The Left has two peenings on the pommel cap (which is a pointed oval siloette).
The Right has one peening over a small brass diamond on the brass pommel cap (which is also a pointed oval siloette).
The small diamond has outward creases between opposite points, which give it a kite appearance.
The pommel cap itself has a single outward crease along the longest dimension of the oval.
Left chiruwa / exposed tang, Right enclosed tang.
Neither blade carries any other marks other than mentioned here.
The Right scabbard has very little surface leather remaining, but there is a patch near the throat on the front that faintly shows embrossing of a double-line intersection making an off-center X.
Also, very faintly, double-line embrossings go from top to bottom at the left and right sides of the scabbard on both front and back.
The Left scabbard I was told was patterned very closely on the unusable original, and the badge transferred from old to new.
? Is the broad-arrow 'real'?
I gathered from another thread that it should Not be composed of three seperate stampings.
? Is the 45 'real' / meaningful?
Reviewing the FAQ galleries left me with the impression that this style would be pre-WWII.
? Is the badge 'real' / does it fit the appropriate era / gorkha style? No crossed khuks.
Suspect it was added to the new sheath and likely wasn't actually on the original.
I have found Very Similar repros by Googling, but can't find an Exact match.
? Are the steel-centered brass pins typical / indicative of India manufacture? Or a certain period of manufacture?
Again, any observations appreciated.