'Old' khukuri; tourist junk or the real thing?

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I bought an old-looking khuk in a junk shop today. It was 'associated' with a British Army Sam Brown belt dated 1917, tho' the association isn't necessarily reliable.

Being technically incompetent, I can't post pix to make identification easier; but I've had a look through the Powell collection pix and the other pix of old khuks in the FAQ, and I'm satisfied that the blade shape and style aren't inconsistent with a 'genuine' (ie non-tourist) khukuri.

The knife is 16.5" OAL, triple-fullered, very well made with sharply defined fullers, a deep double-grooved sword of Shiva and a standard plain cho. The blade style is a Salyan, very similar to the HI logo blade, except that it's fullered and very slightly more pointed. The bolster is steel and of good style. The handle is buffalo horn, decorated with small circular bone inlays; five (in the shape of a diamond) above the mid-handle rings, four (in the shape of a triangle) below them. The mid-handle rings are decorated with embossed brass strips in good style, tacked on with thin brass nails. The buttcap is missing. The scabbard is vert plain, with one embossed diagonal cross decorating the upper part; thick black leather over wood. The frog, karda & chakma pouches, karda and chakma are all missing, although stitch-holes on the back indicate where they used to be.

On the ricasso of the blade there's a mark very similar to that in the same place on the Powell collection khukri, page 5, number C (identified as an 1815 sisneyri); it comprises a diamond on top of a triangle over an upwards-curving crescent.

The blade is shouldered, and evenly and continuously tapered from the handle (0.275" thick) to the point. Thickness at shoulder 0.225". The spine is neatly and uniformly beveled. The very tip of the blade is missing - about 0.125" estimated - and the blade has been sharpened with a stone once or twice. The scabbard has a small diamond-shaped beveled chape.

A touch with a file suggests that the edge is as hard or harder than the average HI khuk.

Any information very gratefully received!

[This message has been edited by Tom Holt (edited 04-08-2001).]
 
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Sounds like you picked yourself up a winner Tom.
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I wish I knew more about the marks and such on the old khukuris, but I don't yet.
The one sure thing that to me makes the khukuri a good one is the fact that it's hard.
I have yet to see a tourist model that has any hardness to it.
Congrats.
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You've done a good job of describing a khuk that a pal of mine once had, an heirloom brought back from the CBI (China-Burma-India) theater after WWII.
The way Brit/Ghorkha troops got around over there, it could have traveled widely from its home in Nepal before reaching these shores.
Based on your description, I'd say it's a "real" khukhuri, not turistrash, which can almost always be recognized by its 'punky' and 'tinny' look and feel.
Definitely worth restoring.
Too bad the karda and chakma are missing.
Ken

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Spent today restoring the khuk - made a buttplate, spliced new wood into the scabbard &c. Need a bit of horn to splice into the handle.

Bill - Yup, a chakma and karda won't be a problem; either I'll make them or I'll use the set that came with my village sirupati (though ideally I'd like to match their handles to that of the khuk; it has a stripe of brown/yellow running through it, of good figure. Looks neat...

Also did some test cutting and light polishing on the buffing wheel. Apart from one scale inclusion and one *very* small fold, it's a really impressive piece of bladesmithing - the definition of the fullers is first rate. And it's *very* hard at the cutting edge (hacked over an inch deep into 16ga steel plate without the slightest hint of damage) If this *is* a tourist blade, it's wildly overengineered for its purpose (like a British motorbike or an early Remington slide-action shotgun...)

And it handles superbly too - which leads me to speculate; it's not much over a quarter inch thick - half the thickness of an Ang Khola; so it can't be the case that the "thick blades don't break" has always been the producion philosophy of the kamis since time immemorial. Any demand out there for a quarter-inch thick, 16.25" OAL, 2.125" wide, *fifteen-ounce* triple-fullered AK that moves like lightning and cuts like a lazer? No doubt in my mind that the kamis could make one, provided that Uncle Bill persuades them to...
 
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