Old Kothimora, info needed. PICS

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I purchased this Kothimora last year, but I know very little about it. It looks like the regimental kothimora that is pictured on John Powell's Kothimora page: http://www.himalayan-imports.com/Powell/kukri/kukri-03.html

I was hoping for some information on this kothimora, such as its age or possible use.

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The scabbard is wood covered with purple velvet. The chape and locket are made of very intricately designed silver. There is a disc held in place by a silver chain. The disc has an image of Chhepu. Below the disc is a sheet of gold with another image of Chhepu, with three green colored stones or cut glass at the points of the sheet. Above the disc is a square piece of gold with an image of a bird, with another four green stones at each corner of the square.

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There is a leather pouch, covered with the same purple velvet, attached to the back of the scabbard. The pouch has three slots, and a larger pouch in front. There is a karda and chakma in two of the slots, the third is empty. Because the leather is so stiff from age, I am unable to look in the large pouch to see if there are any other tools.

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The karda and chakma are pretty small, but they appear to have been made for use. The karda was sharpened, and the chakma has cris-crossing lines on one side, like a file, and several small indentations on the other side, as if for striking flint. The handles appear to be horn.

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The Khukuri itself is rather underwhelming compared to the scabbard. I don't think it is original to this scabbard, as it does not fit too well. The scabbard was damaged by someone inserting the khukuri. It is split on one side, and the silver edge-guard is missing from there.

The khukuri is just under 15" long, and a little over 1/4" thick at the bolster. The grip is made of horn, and the bolster and buttcap appear to be brass. The tang protrudes from the buttcap, but it is off-centered. The blade was sharpened, but it was not polished.

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If anybody can provide any information at all, it will be greatly appreciated. If anybody has any questions, please ask.
 
Sturm,
This is a very typical kothimora that could have been used as a present or even sold as a tourist piece. It isn't more than 50 yrs old although it might appear to be. I have had many of these and compared to a quality piece the difference in knife construction, the poor karda & chakmak and mediocre engraving becomes very evident. I hope this picture will help.
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Hi Sturm!
I see its your first post so Welcome !

Well thats an interesting piece you have even if its not up to JPs collecting standards! Your way of describing it shows a good eye for detail!

Is it your only kukri? or are you generaly interested in collecting kukris? or other knives,swords etc.

cheers,
Spiral
 
Welcome Sturm and thanks for sharing the pics. Too bad about the scabbard. I've got one scabbard too where the previous owner sheathed the knife to quickly. Probably right about the kukri though not be original. In 84' I bought my first Japanese army katana....I was a kid and drooling....but somebody married the nicer looking navy scabbard to the army katana.....Eventually picked up a army scabbard now I just need to marry the navy scabbard to a navy katana.

Things happen....again welcome

Steve
 
to the Cantina!

JP's the best source on this. The wider pouch at the back is for flints and tinder, and yes, the chakmak has the flint striker side for that. Good detective work!

Keith
 
To JP:

Thanks for the response. I thought it may have been a tourist piece, but I didn't know they usually had the side-tools. The engraved silver and the gold leaf also seemed out of place on a tourist piece. The brass bolster and buttcap on the khukuri shows that the knife is post-1900 according to your web page, but I was hoping that it was not original to the scabbard. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me.

To Spiraltwista:

Thanks for the welcome. I also have an HI 16" WWII by Bura, so I am not too disappointed to hear that this particular piece is not very unique. I collect mostly firearms, but any military weapon interests me, such as bayonets.

To fenryr:

Yeah, I was unhappy when I saw the damage to the scabbard, but I just have to be very careful when I resheath the blade. It has the nasty habit of popping out of the split in the scabbard. Someone had to really push the blade in there to cut the silver edge-guard. Maybe I will emboss some aluminum foil and try to replace it? Er, maybe not...

To Ferrous Wheel:

There may even be flint in the pouch, but I am afraid to look in there for fear of breaking the stiff leather. I wonder if there was a third tool in the slot between the karda and chakmak? Maybe an awl or something.
 
Sturm
I had neglected to tell you how excellent your photos and descriptions were. If all the inquiries I received were that good I might be able to supply better answers.

Many things offered at markets/bazaars have gold & silver, but like anything it's a matter of quality. The gold isn't even plated, but is applied as a wash and is of very low grade as is the silver. The kukri itself is always a good indicator of quality when there is no history behind a kothimora.
 
Thank you for the compliment. Your khukuri reference pages are excellent and they are very informative. The photos are excellent, also.

Luckily, I did not pay a large amount for the khukuri, and I keep it for display rather than use.

Thank you, everyone, for all of the replies.
 
Sturm,

Far be it from me to tell you what to do with yours or anyone elses kukri, so this is just an idea based on the photos supplied. With the leather being dry & stiff, I wouldn't want to place any pressure trying to open either. Is it possible to take a cue-tip with some mink oil or Lexol leather conditioner and apply it thinly within the openings? You can not be too liberal with the oil/ conditioner because of the velvet. I would hate to stain that or have run down the opening below the leather. Maybe some thin wood wedges could be used as you go to help slowly open the pockets? Once opened a blunt dental instrument could be used to carefully probe the pockets.

Just a suggestion. I'm sure some of the other guys might have a couple better ones.

Steve
 
Sturm, welcome to the cantina, you have come to the right place for knowledge on Kukris . There is an incredible depth of information here. We are very fortunate in having people like JP, Spiraltwista and many many others who have a real understanding of these wonderful knives.There hardly is not a day goes by where I don't learn something new.
 
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