Taking my buddy home from work today, works for me, he wanted to stop at a Mexican second hand store to buy some DVD's .99c each . the guy had a whole shelf of knifes in the case. Long story short,,, came out with a Kershaw Black Gulch ll $10.00 and a Puma White Hunter ll #6374 with a sheath in very good condition for $57.00. So $67.00 gets me 2 great knifes. The black gulch will take some work to straighten out the bad use of the blade, but it will just be some hand work. Looks like a kid tried to cut wire or bricks with dads knife, blade was flat. The Puma, ser.#34001, Some scratches on the blade, Sheath is in used, but very nice condition. I still have my Puma Bowie that I bought in Jan. 1969 in Vietnam, carried for a tour and a half, sits in my office but still has a special place in my heart. Take a look around Old School Is O.K. rasp21.