Old-Style sheaths

Gollnick

Gollnick

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I think that most of you will agree that the new Benchmade 42 is an outstanding knife. But, I also suspect that many of you will agree that the sheath that comes with it is, well, let's say it leaves something to be desired.

There's no sign that BM is going to change that any time soon.

Today, I went to a gun and knife show looking for balisongs (didn't find anything worth mentioning). I did run into a dealer friend of mine who sold me two BM42s for $112/each, not a bad buy. Then, I ran into my old friend Bill of Bill's Custom Cases. I showed him the sorry sheaths that had come with my new 42s and he just shook his head. I also showed him the old-style Benchmade Balisong nylon sheath that I was carrying my carry 42 in and asked him if he could duplicate it with just two changes:

1 - replace the elastic in the back with two adjustable straps. The old Benchmade sheaths only work well with a narrow range of belt widths. If you like to wear wide belts, they won'd fit. If you have a thin belt, they slide around to much. If you have a belt that's expecially thick, maybe one with decorations on it, then they won't fit.

2 - Stiffen the edge of the flap so I don't have to put nails in it.

Bill took my new knife and my old sheath and he's gonna duplicate the old sheath for the new knife with the indicated changes.

If it works well, I'll have him make a pile of 'em and offer 'em to you.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
That sounds great Chuck!!! Now I have to decide what sheath or sheaths i am going to get
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That's great to know and I hope that you keep us posted on what turns out.

On a similar note:
I went to a local knife shop and was looking at a rack of sheaths that they had. I immediately located the white butterfly logo of Benchmade. I looked at the sheath and I think it is for balisongs...but did Benchmade make similar (black rectangular sheaths with a large butterfly logo on them) for the regular folding knives? Does that make sense? They had a VERY long flap and (if for a balisong) would be for a 4in. I think that the price was $10-15.

So does any one know if these are Benchmade Balisong sheaths or just benchmade folding knife sheaths?

Thanks
mmtmatrix
 
mmtmatrix: what knife shop?

Chuck: Would he offer the 3" size as well as the 4" size sheaths?

What would the cost be for one of these?

Would it fit a 45 well or would it be too big?

Since these are going to be handmade will they be of higher quality than the old BM sheaths??

Thanks

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Cameron
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I'm sure that Bill can make a smaller on for you 30 and 35 owners. I'm also sure that what he makes for the 42 will also fit the 45 and 44 well. There's not much size difference between them. Bill would tell you that yes, his will be even better than BM's originals. Bill makes cases and sheaths of all sorts full-time. He and his wife do all the work. They use only the best materials. They've been doing this for years so they know all the ins and outs. And, they have all of the best equipment. So, I suspect that it's gonna be every bit as good as BM's and, with the simple design changes mentioned above, it may even be a bit better.

I don't think this is going to be the ultimate sheath for your BM42 by any means. But, it's gonna be better than the one that came with it, that's for sure. And, it's gonna be inexpensive, less than $10, I suspect.

There's a lot of excellent sheath makers out there doing great balisong sheaths. But, while it's great, leather is very expensive. And while I like the one that Matt did for Sniperboy and will certainly be getting one of those, I'm just not a big fan of rigid materials like Kydex for sheaths. So, if you like the old BM sheaths as I do, then hopefully this will be a good reproduction.

Oh, and yes, BM did make sheaths for their other knives that very much resemble balisong sheaths. Typically, though, they're just to wide for balisongs.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
Hi!

I think it's totally awesome this!
Thanx to this forum there are new balisong things popping up all the time, would this have happend without Bladeforums??? don't think so!

And Gollnick, did you get my answer about the Gemini project?? i use hotmail so you might have scrapped it right away
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Too much knives, too little dough!

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Be well!/Jonas aka 2Sharp

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Jonas,

I did not get your e-mail. Any mail sent to me from an account @hotmail.com gets deleted before I even see it. There's not even a bit bucket I can go and look in. Sorry, but hotmail accounts are involved in a significant fraction of Spam and the administrators at hotmail refuse to do anything about it.

Until recently, I only filtered mail coming directly from hotmail accounts. Recently, though, I was deluged with spam from one user who was trying to sell me on a merchant bank account (which is what you need to process credit card transactions. You might be surprised that I would turn this down since many people who buy and sell stuff regularly dream about being able to process credit cards. But, I don't sell stuff that often. Furthermore, I don't want to enter into that kind of a business relationship with some guy who's first introduction to me is spam e-mail with deliberatly forged headers. It's not good to start a business relationship with a fraud.). Anyway, you could see that this guy had to change the account he was actually sending from every couple of days. Clearly, he'd launch a pile of spam very early one morning. Within hours, people would start complaining to the postmaster at the domain he was using. But, by that time, the spam was long gone. Even so, they'd kick him off and close his account by the end of day, maybe the next day and he'd have to move on. The problem for him is that with his account closed, he couldn't get the replies that might contain the sales he's after. So, he carefully constructed the headers he used to have a reply address different than the address it was sent from. The reply address was a hotmail account. Spammers call this a "back end" account. The account you abuse to launch your spam is called a "front end" account. The front end account is a throw-away. The spammer expects it to be closed within hours. But, since replies will go to the back end account, he'll still get 'em.

When I brought this to hotmail's attention, they refused to do anything about it. They know what he's doing. He's doing what scores of other spammers do. He's using hotmail as his back end. And hotmail tollerates is. By their tollerance, hotmail enables this man's questionable business. You see, without a stable back end account to receive the replies, there's no way for this man to profit from his frontend activities. By knowingly acting as his back end, hotmail makes his front end activities potentially profitable.

Any reputable domain will close your account and kick you off if they discover that you're abusing it as a back end even if you're not going any actual spam from their domain. The administrators at most every other domain are smart enough to see the cause/effect relationship between back end accounts and spam. But, hotmail refused to consider this.
If a landlord allows and even encourages prostitutes to live and conduct their business in his building, then he should not be upset if his building becomes known as a brothel.

Hotmail.com allows and even encourages spammers to use thier services. They should not be upset if their domain becomes know as a center of spam.

I have now completely blocked hotmail. Nothing from any user at hotmail or with a hotmail reply address gets through.

Sorry, but the problem I mentioned above involved five to ten e-mail's a day and it went on for weeks. I pleaded with hotmail to shut this guy down and they refused to help. So, I just shut them down.

If your account is at hotmail, you can get e-mail to me. Send it to gollnick@spamcop.net. I only check my spamcop mail every couple of days, so it'll take longer.

Sorry, but this part of the downside of having a popular (about 1900 hits/day) website.

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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com

[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 09-10-2000).]
 
Well, I talked to Bill. He is unable to make a product that satisfies him with the materials that he has in stock. The material he wants to use is only sold in 200 yard rolls. That's about five hundred sheaths. So, unless someone here is willing to order about 475 of 'em, Bill's just not gonna be able to do the job. Sorry.

He is, however, sending me up a few custom made cases for a few other recent acquisitions of mine.

Again, my appologies for raising hopes. I was just to excited myself.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
I just got the new BRIGADE QUARTERMASTER catalog last night. They are selling sheaths that look like the will work. They say will fit up to six by two inch knives I think they have a web sight www.actiongear.com ? Did anyone else get one of these? It looks like a knife catalog more than ever. I guess knife sales must be good.

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Later, Jim

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