Old style tang with stop pin cutout

[Muaddib1116]

So, the late 90's Large Regular I just got has a different style tang than all the other Sebenzas I have. Does anyone know when and why they changed? Here's some pics, 90's Regular first, then recent Seb 21.

 

[nyefmaker]

Good post, I myself really have no definitive answer. When asked about this in the past, Chris always stated that the sebenza is constantly evolving and that he would change little things here and there to try and perfect it. I have seen TONS of little changes over the life of the regular sebenza from the indentions in the blade tang like you show here to different jimping, double lockbar cutouts ( I have one like that ), etc. Its the Masters creation and he just kept striving to make it better. As much as I loved the One Piece Knives, I think I was more saddened when the Regular Sebenza was no more.......Thank God I have several of em to enjoy...........In my opinion, the regular sebenza ( I prefer the large regular ) is the the finest folding knife ever designed and manufactured by ANY company........!!! Many here echo this statement.

 

[Ernie1980]

I have noticed this as well, it is one reason why the blades of the regular and 21 are not interchangeable. I agree that the regulars are the best sebenzas ever!

 

[Ken44]

Glad to see you got your knife !

They didn't describe it very well, and I've wondered about what year it would be from.

Does it have BG-42, with no date stamp on slabs ?

I'm thinking that's the case, and if so it was made in late 1996, or 1997.
I have a Regular 1997 stamped A97, but not all made that year had the date stamp.
I also have a Regular BG-42 with no stamp that was made in late 96 or 97. I'm thinking yours may be one like that.

 

[Muaddib1116]

Glad to see you got your knife !

They didn't describe it very well, and I've wondered about what year it would be from.

Does it have BG-42, with no date stamp on slabs ?

I'm thinking that's the case, and if so it was made in late 1996, or 1997.
I have a Regular 1997 stamped A97, but not all made that year had the date stamp.
I also have a Regular BG-42 with no stamp that was made in late 96 or 97. I'm thinking yours may be one like that.

Yeah, I actually posted an update in my other thread.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1193030-Irresponsible-Behavior/page2
I think you're right about the dates.

 

[Ken44]

Thanks. They will have that one looking as new, and I hope it serves you well.

I've wondered about one thing lately. They started the Regular frame in 1996, and started using BG-42 in October of that year.

Does anyone know if any Regular's were made in 1996 that had ATS-34 ?
If so how would you know which without sending it in to CRK ?

I may have read that before, but don't remember if I did.

 

[DallasSTB]

Thanks. They will have that one looking as new, and I hope it serves you well.

I've wondered about one thing lately. They started the Regular frame in 1996, and started using BG-42 in October of that year.

Does anyone know if any Regular's were made in 1996 that had ATS-34 ?
If so how would you know which without sending it in to CRK ?

I may have read that before, but don't remember if I did.

I have these two -

Large Reg #19

Small Reg #31

You may be right about the start date of the BG42 blades, but the earliest picture of a birthcard with this blade steel I've seen is Regular #151 below born on 2/25/97

 

[Ken44]

I have these two -


You may be right about the start date of the BG42 blades, but the earliest picture of a birthcard with this blade steel I've seen is Regular #151 below born on 2/25/97

Thanks for the images of those great looking knives !

Do you know if all of the large Regulars with ATS-34 were numbered ?

I got one this year like the OP's. Regular with no date stamp, and no blade marking.
I've assumed it is BG-42(and was told by seller it was), but if all of the ATS-34 Regulars were not numbered how would one know which steel it was without sending it in ?

I'm hoping all of the ATS-34 Regulars were numbered
If not I may have to send mine in just to find out.

 

[lockster30]

I too have a Large Regular with no date codes..etc. I did alot of research on this topic recently. Here it is in a large nutshell.
ATS-34 was used in the first 200 (numbered) Large Regular Sebenzas due to the supplier delaying the arrival of BG42. Initially all ATS-34 blades in the Regulars had a polished finish of some sort. The first BG42 blades differed in that they were all stonewashed on both the blade and flats. This info was from Anne which I will try to dig up quotes after my vacation(cell phone only).
She added later versions of the Large regulars BG42 in uniques and special orders had different combinations of polished and stonewashed. Basically if it fell into that void of non dated slabs and it was a plain Jane "regular" with all stone wash, then it is BG42 .
Please feel free to correct me if I misstated anything above.

 

[Ken44]

I too have a Large Regular with no date codes..etc. I did alot of research on this topic recently. Here it is in a large nutshell.
ATS-34 was used in the first 200 (numbered) Large Regular Sebenzas due to the supplier delaying the arrival of BG42. Initially all ATS-34 blades in the Regulars had a polished finish of some sort. The first BG42 blades differed in that they were all stonewashed on both the blade and flats. This info was from Anne which I will try to dig up quotes after my vacation(cell phone only).
She added later versions of the Large regulars BG42 in uniques and special orders had different combinations of polished and stonewashed. Basically if it fell into that void of non dated slabs and it was a plain Jane "regular" with all stone wash, then it is BG42 .
Please feel free to correct me if I misstated anything above.

Thank you for sharing that information !!!
I've asked nyefmaker, and a couple of others in PM yesterday, and was about to call CRK in the morning to find that out.
CRK thanks you too! I don't have to bother them now