Old WW II FC Khukuri done well.

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Barb and me went out gathering some Oklahoma Sage today for use in our Sweatlodge.
I had just received an old nasty somewhat rusty Full Curving WW II khukuri from our friend John Powell and thought I would give it a workout.
The blade is soft compared with the HI models and I expected that, but it took a nice shaving edge with a file and a set of crock sticks and then strops. The old knife may be softer than what we're used too, But It Is Tough!!!

We gather the Sage along the road side in the rural areas close to home and some of the banks are steep. I used the knife as a lever to help me up some of the banks by stabbing it in the ground and pulling myself up, naturally this dulled the edge toward the point something terrible.
I used the recurve in the blade to pull the Sage stems toward me then when I had a good hold on the Sage I would pull the blade through the stalks useing the still sharp recurved edge to cut it. I had never used a khukuri for this before, but it sure won't be the last time as it made the work go much easier And much faster!!!!

Then to top it all off I stumbled on one of the banks and went for a tumble. There was No Way I could keep from falling and with the khukuri in hand it was sorta a frightening moment, but I was able to keep the knife clear by stabbing it in the ground once again and useing it as a pivot to help control the fall, and managed to roll although it was the side of a gravel road and some of the rocks along the side were fist sized and dayumed hard!!!
I am now paying for that, but the medicine will take effect in a while. I am really thankful our old gym teacher taught some of us some martail arts techniques with one of them being able to fall without getting hurt to badly.
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I credit the khukuri with saving me from a really bad fall. And that's one of my biggest fears with 5 fused vertabrae(sp?) in my low back!!!!

Then we went down another back road and found a really nice patch of Sage. When Barb crossed the side of the road she noticed some large animal tracks and didn't think much about it. I walked down the road a bit and gathered an arm load of Sage and was walking back to the truck when Barb pointed out the tracks and commented that they looked like cat tracks. They were!!!!
There have been reports over the years about a panther being seen in some of the areas we were frequenting today, but we haven't heard anything about the panther in quite some time.
Barb and me were down by a reservoir just a couple of miles from the house about 3 years ago looking for Sage and saw where the panther had taken a walk around the edge of some wooded areas there. And that's where the Sage grows.
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Anyway I have no desire to tangle with a large cat on a good day and knowing just how slow I am and How Fast they can be we got back in the truck and left the Sage for another time.
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Then we stopped at a local supermart and while Barb went in I checked out the old khukuri.
Naturally the edge had rolled badly and dented a bit in a couple of places. I had my Marbles Woodcraft with me as usual and started working the edge of the old war horse with the back of the Marbles.
I now understand even better the value of the chakma!!! Especially on the softer khukuris!!
I kept working the edge and after a bit it started rolling small burrs off the edge as if I was useing a file on it!!! That amazed me as I had never seen anything like it before. The old war horse came back shaving sharp with just the Marbles used as a chakma on it!!

I won't abuse the old WW II Khukuri as it has earned its rest, but I may use it to cut Sage with now and then instead of some of the knives I have used in the past.
That gives the old knife Sacred Work to do and it seemed to enjoy being useful once again as well as being cared for.
I would most certainly stake my life on the old blade as some proud Ghorka must have done in the past.
It also gave me a brand new experience and learning with a softer blade. I am impressed!!!
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[This message has been edited by Yvsa (edited 09-10-2000).]
 
Knock that kind of stuff off, brother.

I was already going to go out and get you some from out here anyway. And the last little kitty we saw round here back a month-and-a-half or two ago was only bout 3/4 grown.

Look for it in the mail - maybe I can harvest it tomorrow morning and mail it the afternoon.
 
Tom: I let you out of my sight for just a few days and look what happens!
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Hmmm. I did remember to wish you a safe journey home, but I forgot to mention anything about what might happen when you finally _got_ home...

Be careful out there in OK.

-Dave
 
Geeez, I don't know about you old guys
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acting like teenyboppers
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As for the khukuri......ya made my point
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Dan
 
Yvsa if you ever want a natural bowl from the Chattanooga area (and if you know your mythology then you'll know of several places around here!) let me know. Once in a long while I'll find one for my friend Don, who uses them for smoke purification before he dances.

Stephen

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Micah 6:8. Well worth the attempt!
 
And just WHAT is a natural bowl?Mythology?Come on guys,Uncle Bill,Yvsa,and now you,casually mention these mystic things and just make the uninformed like me want to learn all about it
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Robert the natural bowls can be either a wood burl that's been naturally hollowed out or sometimes a stone that's found that has been mysteriously hollowed out as well.
Both are equally Sacred to some of us traditional people.

The mythology so called is the old stories of our emergence from the underground near there or the stories of when Atlantis sank into the sea about our escape to the new world.
Some of the old stories are still passed down by the Elders or you can read about some in Mooney's "Tales and Myths of the Cherokee and Sacred Formulas of the Cherokee."
Makes for interesting reading and covers some stories about the Trail of Tears or as we know it, The Trail Where We Cried.
There were many Trails of Tears with different tribes. The Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Seminole were involved as well as the Navajo when the were removed from thier homeland. There were also Apaches taken to Florida for a while and then too Alabama, then on to Ft. Sill Oklahoma and I think some Cheyennes too, but my memory doesn't permit me to drag up all of the ones who were done that way. An interesting thing about Geronimo or Gothalay, his real name, which means,"One who Yawns" died the same year my mom was born,1909. Had mom of been born 2 years sooner she wouldn't have been born in Oklahoma, but Indian Terr.
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The Old Ways haven't all been lost nor has it been "that long ago" for some of us. Five years ago I sit in the Sweatlodge with Chief Bigfoot's grandson in Porcupine S.D. Chief Bigfoot and his band were massacred at Wounded Knee in 1873.

What's his to do with khukuris? Y'all know.
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check your email, it rained and we got sage flowering yellow or plain unflowering. Flowering has a hint of melon.
 
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Glad I made your point Dan. I knew what you ment and I agree, I just like the harder blades. If I had of been useing my 18"AK I wouldn't have had to sharpen it and if it done its usual job there would have been no chipping as well. That's why it is still my vry best favorite although others come mighty close. That 18"AK is one heckuva blade!!!!

Thanks for all the concern and the funny remarks as well. Ya just gotta remember that I come from a culture where teaseing is a blood sport.
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And Dave, if I had of had a tot of that Single Malt I would have been more steady on my feet. It was pretty warm out today and that can make a fellow sleepy and not as focused.
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Looks like I am gonna have to save my money for another go at that. I could develop a Real Fondness for it so I will have to be careful!!! I am still gonna hide it from my b-i-l though.(VBESEG)

Specs. Let's see. Get my ruler and mic's. 17 1/4" OAl. Blade is 12 3/4". Handle with steel bolster is 5" with slab handles and a double peen on the thin steel butt cap. Drop is right at 3 1/2" and the belly is 2 3/8". Thickness 0.250" (1/4")at the bolster going out to 0.325"(tad over 5/16") about center of blade, then down to 0.125" (1/8") at the point just above the edge bevel. The width of the blade at the edge hovers around 0.125" + - a tad. Weight guesstemate on bathroom scales about 1 1/2 Lbs.
This is a thin khukuri. I found the Full Curve easy to use for what I was doing today. One of these days when I have something not too hard to cut I will try it out chopping a bit. Right now the sweet spot seems in about the normal place we're all used to.
Did I mention that I like the old Khukuri?
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Yvsa, thanks for sharing your experience with us. I'm glad you survived your adventure -- I do want to be able to meet you in person some day.
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As for the old khuk, it's nice to hear that you have given it new life. Now that I'm getting on in years, I'm growing more fond of old things and the old ways.
 
Yvsa,

Glad you made it through your spill O.K. I did last year and was hobbling around for about a month.

I have used the chakma to produce a burr on fairly hard khukuri's as well. The chakma has to be harder though and it takes a lot longer. Using a steeper angle also helps.

Will
 
Tom: what I did back in Oregon was to have two or three different stashes of whisky and other asorted liquors based on price and/or relative quality.

So, depending on whether or not my guests had any taste, and depending on whether or not my guests had any propensity towards imbibing large quantities of alcohol (always encouraged at my apartment, of course), I would decide which liquor cabinet to open up on any given evening.

It wasn't a pure price thing, either, as some of the women preferred Bailey's which I kept in the most inexpensive cabinet even though it was not, but _God_ _Forbid_ if they would notice some of my Glenfarclas 105 or Lagavulin or whatever and unthinkingly mix it with something else!

It was a good way to avoid embarassing situations and undue costs for entertaining.

-Dave

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Tom,
I guess that old beater still had some work to do and I hope you will be OK.

I always thought the life in these knives just never goes out until they're rusted dirt. You have proved that.

Take care and I am glad the knife has a new home.

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JP
 
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