OMG: The National Knife Museum Commentary

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Hey guys, had time to drop by our National Knife Museum in Tennessee this past week, and also wandered around the Smoky Mtn store for a good while. Both the museum and the store are located in a huge 20,000 sq ft building that is for sure the biggest knife store in the country. Here are my thoughts, I'm curious to know yours, even if it's just in reaction to my reaction.

First off, I thought the museum was really unimpressive. Maybe it's because it seems focused on slipjoints, peanuts, Case, etc and I don't do those types of knives, so maybe I just don't get how awesome their collection is. But I've been a knife collector for close to a decade and know most of the manufacturers. They had knives in display cases in this "museum" I wouldn't even consider purchasing. The customs section was way too small and not very historical in terms of the important custom makers than have contributed to the history of cutlery in our country. The museum collection just seemed sub-par, small in size, and lacking a true timeline of how knives have developed in this country (how custom makers have contributed to innovations of design and technology). I would classify the "museum" more as a nice private collection of vintage slipjoints with some other odd and ends thrown in for good measure, but nothing serious or impressive. Now, again, maybe I missed stuff, a did walk through it rather quickly, but I was expecting much more out of a "National Knife Museum."
Don't get me wrong though, I'm real glad it's there and hopefully developing.

As for the store, I thought it was also pretty lacking. They had the standard fare from the mid-grade manufacturers, some but not alot of selection from the better makes, no customs, and a very sorry antique and hard-to-find knives section. Second-hand product was extremely limited. Accessories like sheaths and such were sub-par. Prices were good and staff was friendly, but there's no official in-store education on how to evaluate a knife, for example, the difference between their Kershaw and their United Cutlery fantasy knives sections.

Am I riding these places too hard? I mean, as a collector who hangs out on this forum, maybe I've just become too much of a knife snob. But dang, c'mon, "National Knife Museum" and "Largest Knife Store in the Country," it's even billed as a "Destination for Knife Enthusiasts." Shoot, I know many private collections that put the museum to shame, many stores cooler and more progressive than this one, many purveyors who stay on top of the market and showcase the work of real artisans, and "destinations," like shows, that provide alot more in the way of education. I guess I was expecting a whole lot more from the mecca of knives in the U.S. Made me kind of sad, but also helped me to realize that we can get waayyy more into knives on this forum than even the general retail and collector sectors of the hobby venture into much.

Your thoughts?
 
Actually, its the largest knife showplace in the world. haha

I live about half an hour away from there, and the museum is pretty dissapointing.
 
It's probably a low budget operation run by someone who doesn't really know or appreciate the knifenut. :barf:
 
There was a similar thread regarding the NKCA. I would urge you to write a letter to the President of the NKCA regarding your feeling on how we can bring the NKCA into the 21st century. http://www.nkcaknife.org/page5a.html
Maybe we can get some new blood on the board and change things. Lets try not to bash them, but lets educate them regarding our needs to help them stay alive for the future.
 
I think if you are into slip joints you will enjoy the museum more. Perhaps the "museum" part should be taken in context of the knife the majority of folks carried for everyday tasks for many, many years - the slip joint. In this community (BF) the locking folder (one hand opening, with pocket clip) probably takes that role, but this type of knife is a newcomer historically speaking. And custom knives? Yes, they have played a role in the evolution of the cutlery world, but such a small percentage of the population owns them that the fact that the museum does not have them can hardly be called a major oversight. Sure, there are many important pieces missing from the collection, but it is what it is. "National Knife Museum" is a stretch, but for the common man's knife it covers things OK.

As for the store, maybe the best way to put it is that they stock what sells. Think of the clientele. Untold millions pass through the area on the way to Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg, and the Smokies. The majority are tourons whose idea of a vacation is to visit all the factory outlet stores and maybe Dollywood and other attractions, and as an afterthought drive up into the Smokies to be wowed by the view for a few minutes, then drive back to the blight on the land they call their vacation wonderland.

The knife selection reflects this demographic. The common names in the knife world are well represented - Buck, Case, and I doubt you will ever see a better selection of Swiss Army knives. And there are plenty of other brands that cater to the "bargain hunter" knife buyer. After all, folks whose vacation is built around bargain shopping are not going to spend much on cutlery, and the ones mentioned above are the high end to them.

Sharpening supplies are basic, with DMT, Lansky, and Arkansas stones (of mediocre quality) represented, among a few others. But this is one area I wish they would expand to include more sophisticated, and better quality, hardware.

There are others there - Queen, some Spyderco, etc. - that are more niche. But overall the selection reflects who stops by to shop.
 
From what I can gather, the National Knife Museum is little more than an extension of Smoky Mountain Knife Works. And SMKW is in the business of selling knives. Without bashing anyone, I think it's safe to say that if you're not crazy about what SMKW sells, you won't be crazy about their notion of what constitutes knife history.

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One thing in the museum most of the knives were donated to the museum. So that will really limit what you were seeing. I guess the people didn't want to see what they thought were importnt just get split up and that was all they could do with it.
 
Frankly, whatever helps keep SMKW alive is fine with me. Although I'm disinterested in over 98% of what they sell, they have a lot of buying power. And occasionally, they're able to procure and resell knives I AM interested in at phenomenal prices. For example, I just picked up a Large Cold Steel Voyager from their catalog for $40.00. Before that I bought an RTAK II from them for $60.00 and a TAK-1 in D2 for $40.00. I even bought my EDC from them . . . an A.G. Russell Folding Hunter in 154CM . . for $40.00. These bargains are few and far between, of course. But without SMKW and Knives Live, they'd never even come to my attention.
 
George, you wondered over into slipjoint and traditional land:p


I love slip joints, and always go by there on my way to a Parker knife show near there. There prices are a little high, but I like to look around in there store and museum.
I like all types of knives expect tactical, and really love the NKCA and Parker shows for all the traditional knives they have.
Of course the Blade show is the best since we get to see all types of knives there.
 
Here is a little bit of history. I think most of the other stuff belongs to SMKW. I think we need to support them and I also think we should help them understand the knives and the history of what collectors collect now and help them bring the collection up to date.
I'm sure with only 4000 sq ft. they will be limited to what they can display. I love the history of the slip joints and I think it is an important part of our history, but I also think they need the support of the newer generations who grew up liking different style of knives.


In 2001 we sold our Museum property in Chattanooga, TN and placed our extensive knife inventory into storage. After several years, Mr. Kevin Pipes, owner of Smoky Mtn Knife Works, made us a generous offer of 4,000 square feet of unfinished floor space located on the second floor mezzanine of SMKW. Without hesitation, the Officers and Directors accepted Kevin’s generous offer and construction began. Thanks to the efforts of Mr. Pete Cohan, our NKM Curator, we now have a fabulous Museum in Sevierville, TN. As members, we should feel very proud of our Museum and if you have not visited, you need to; it’s a learning experience even for the most knowledgeable knife collectors.



When the property in Chattanooga was sold, the Museum was heavily in debt and approximately half of the proceeds from the sale were immediately taken off the top to pay its debts. We spent several hundred thousand dollars completing our new Museum and the remainder of the funds were invested in the stock market and placed into CD’s at our financial institution. We have a staff of two paid employees at the Museum and Pete Cohan volunteers his time as NKM Curator. The Museum has very little income other than donations from the visiting public, display space purchased by knife manufacturers and proceeds from our Tony Bose and now Great Eastern Cutlery silent auctions. We have applied for grants of many kinds, but do not meet most of the regulatory standards. All donations sent to the National Knife Museum can be written off your tax return since we are a non-profit 501( c ) 3 Corporation.



The NKCA is a not-for-profit organization, but not a tax-exempt entity like the Museum. Both organizations have their own tax identification numbers, separate checking and savings accounts, and are totally separate corporations by all bookkeeping standards; but, the Museum would not exist without the generous cutlery donations that have been given by you, the membership. For our newer members that may not be aware, the NKCA was established in 1972 and the original Museum was built in 1981.
 
It is called the National Knife Museum because it was created by the knife collecting club The National Knife Collectors back in the 80's. They were once one of the few places you could find a monthly knife magazine, National Knife Collector. Being mostly a southern organization, most of their focus was on slip-joints from the start. All of the knives in the museum were donated by club members.

Many years ago I pointed out several fake knives on display to the museum curator and was told they didn't want to take them out because it would embarrass club members
 
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Don't feel bad. I wasn't aware of the history of the National Knife Museum either. Having said that, I still wouldn't go out of my way to visit it or SMKW for that matter. As Bobby said, the museum (and SMKW as well) need to understand the knives and the history of what collectors collect now and bring their collections/offerings up to date. (It would also help if Jay Parker realized that the word "abalone" has 4 syllables in it, not 3, and the Knives Live hosts stopped pronouncing Bob Terzuola's last name "terra-ZOO-la". :rolleyes: ) Meanwhile, I'll continue to keep an eye out for those rare occurrences . . . I refer to them as "Blue Moons Over Sevierville" . . . when SMKW actually offers knives I collect. Considering some of the bargains I've gotten from them, they're worth the wait.

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Don't feel bad. I wasn't aware of the history of the National Knife Museum either. Having said that, I still wouldn't go out of my way to visit it or SMKW for that matter. As Bobby said, the museum (and SMKW as well) need to understand the knives and the history of what collectors collect now and bring their collections/offerings up to date. (It would also help if Jay Parker realized that the word "abalone" has 4 syllables in it, not 3, and the Knives Live hosts stopped pronouncing Bob Terzuola's last name "terra-ZOO-la". :rolleyes: ) Meanwhile, I'll continue to keep an eye out for those rare occurrences . . . I refer to them as "Blue Moons Over Sevierville" . . . when SMKW actually offers knives I collect. Considering some of the bargains I've gotten from them, they're worth the wait.

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As for what people collect now, I think you will find in the south it is still old slip joints. Court house square, talking about how hard times were back in the hills during the depression etc.

If you want more modern knives in the museum, somebody needs to donate them. Maybe everyone on Blade forums should give the museum their best pieces. I would suggest that should start with Les Robertson as he is the only one that really understands what is collectible and what isn't. :)
 
George, you wondered over into slipjoint and traditional land:p


I love slip joints, and always go by there on my way to a Parker knife show near there. There prices are a little high, but I like to look around in there store and museum.
I like all types of knives expect tactical, and really love the NKCA and Parker shows for all the traditional knives they have.
Of course the Blade show is the best since we get to see all types of knives there.

That makes sense. In terms of organizations, I've been more drawn to the CKCA as a collector's organization. Sounds like the NKCA focuses on slipjoints. If I was going to support one or the other, I'd probably give my attention to the CKCA. Seems like the NKCA could be brought into the 21rst century, but perhaps they don't want to be. All in all, I think it's good we even have a national knife museum. Hopefully it can be improved over the years. I did think their Parker lockback collection was cool (there were some in the museum and some in a display in the the store). I guess Jim Parker was a big part of opening the museum? But even there, I've picked up plenty of vintage Parker lockbacks myself without looking too hard, so while all the variations are neat to look at, it's not like they're very rare or anything.
 
As for what people collect now, I think you will find in the south it is still old slip joints. Court house square, talking about how hard times were back in the hills during the depression etc.

If you want more modern knives in the museum, somebody needs to donate them. Maybe everyone on Blade forums should give the museum their best pieces. I would suggest that should start with Les Robertson as he is the only one that really understands what is collectible and what isn't. :)

I wish I could get into slipjoints, but it just seems the variety is endless and it might take 2 lifetimes to be able to assess values. It would be neat to know them because you see tons of them at gun shows, etc. They all look the same to me, maybe one day I'll find a way to begin to understand them and what collectors look for. I guess there are still alot of slipjoint collectors out there?
 
I don't want to sound negative either, but I was reminded by someone who was there during that time and has intimate knowledge of a few instances years ago where the cream of the crop of the knives from the collection were allegedly looted by a few people who had access to them. I am going to leave it at that and I'm sure someone will chime in and shed some light on what happened. Regardless, they are trying hard to get it back on track and move forward.
 
My family and I make an annual trip to TN to visit aunts and uncle, get the free room and board ;) and see the country. This trip always includes a trip to SMKW.

Yes the museum is slipjoint-centric so I walked through it once and now leave it for others. As mentioned earlier the SMKW folks cater to the tourist crowd with about $200 being the top end price point. A little more china and pakistan stuff has garnered display space than I had ever wanted to see but I think that's in every retail business.

If you've never been there and find yourself in the area I think it's good stop once just to see an impressive collection of affordable knives that you could add to your collection.
 
There was a similar thread regarding the NKCA. I would urge you to write a letter to the President of the NKCA regarding your feeling on how we can bring the NKCA into the 21st century. http://www.nkcaknife.org/page5a.html
Maybe we can get some new blood on the board and change things. Lets try not to bash them, but lets educate them regarding our needs to help them stay alive for the future.

I looked over most of that site, except for a PO box in Chattanooga, I saw no real physical address, map or directions on how to get to the museum. If it's co-located to SMKW, it's not in Chattanooga. So, where is this place?
 
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