On being emotional (How do people manage not to)

gazaati

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I have read that emotions are there for a purpose. They are (given to us by God) Or ( we developed them through evolution) depending on the school of thought you subscribe to, as a first line (warning system) plus other things.


I have been victimized by them a few times in my life with family, friends, partners, work and have acted against my own interest because of them. I find myself very intolerant of people, get angry easily, not very political, get suspicious, get hurt easily, get offended easily.

There are people however who seem rocks. They can control emotions. My uncle for example is pure stone. He managed to build great wealth with. I believe that he would not have managed that if it was not for his ability to control emotions. I don't think I would like to be like him. At the same time, I don't like how I am either.

I hope you understand my post and hope you share your wisdom with me.

How do people do that? Do they pay a price? what is the trade off?
 
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There is nothing wrong with emotions in themselves. They are not just a warning system. They are also a way we relate to ourselves and the world around us mentally, rather than just physically. In other words, everything is not just "hungry, eat". Some of it is "tasty food!" and some is "thanks for the food!"

But we have seen how chimps, for example, use emotional ties to manipulate each other, to intimidate, and to comfort and support. It seems to be a function of animals in groups, part of the mental structure of longterm relationships.

Meanwhile, what can you do to use emotions rather than be abused by them?
First, don't be afraid of them and don't try to avoid them.
But before you act on them, think.

Ask yourself what the person affecting you wants from you.
Ask yourself if you really are the best person to do this for them.
Ask yourself if this is the best course of action for you.

Don't rush into anything based on an emotional tie, but learn to make decisions off to the side, so to speak.
 
I managed to never show my true emotions for years. I also developed quite a drinking habit.

I quit drinking, and have managed to let some of my angst go a little. I'm not talking about flying off the handle, or crawling into the fetal position and bawling for hours. Just the simple act of talking through some of my stresses, problems, thoughts of anger, ect.... has gone a long way.

I don't blame my drinking on my inability, or better said, my flat out opposition to letting go of my feelings, but I'm sure it didn't help.

While I still don't believe in some of the new age, crystal beam, path of wonderfulness, lets look at our entire lives and talk about them in detail crap. I do however have to admit it's nice to talk things out before they eat you alive. The main thing is to think before you act on them IMO.
 
What an interesting question, which I too can relate to and have followed the same path as tarmix101. I have no idea what to tell a sober person who has the feelings you describe, but can tell you that drinking makes the feelings stronger.
I guess what ultimately worked for me was that I took a lot of time to discover who I really was and what was really important to me. Why it took me to reach the age of 45 to straighten all this out I don't know. In hindsight, it was a terrific journey.
Be honest with yourself and evaluate any emotional baggage you may be lugging around. Decide what will make you happier and try to go for it. Best Wishes:)
 
Fear is the mind killer.

If you look hard enough (and I mean REALLY look) you'll find negative emotions are a response to fear. Find out what you are afraid of, what's holding you back...and let it go. That's the only way..
 
People who show no emotions get horrific ulcers. People who do nothing but show emotions get traumatic aneurysms, and annoy people on the way there.

Somewhere in the middle is the path you would enjoy living on, and it will likely involve counting to ten sometimes, taking a breath, and letting a lot slide, because life is after all far too short. Smell a flower or two along the way, and make an effort to do things you enjoy, even when that's after work or on the weekends.

Avoid people who annoy you as well as you can, and when you can't, take a deep breath and imagine that they annoy someone else more even than you. Follow the same advice for annoying situations.

And it always helps to have something interesting to read.
 
Gotta be like a duck.
Let the water roll off your back.
Be calm on the surface and paddling like heck underneath.
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Manage by anticipation, not reaction.
 
There is a big genetic component to emotional response. Like most of my family I am pretty long-suffering and slow to anger--unless I am directly threatened. Perceived threat is a pretty general trigger to anger. So I guess you should ask yourself if you often feel that you are threatened and then later on figure out that the original situation wasn't intended to be threatening. Do you have a problem interpreting people's expressions or other emotional cues? This can be something that you are born with or can come out of your upbringing. For example if you were raised by a short-tempered alcoholic you grow up with your personal threat detection system set way too high.

There are various ways that your perceptions can be off center and you don't know it. Here is a scientific study: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060717221058.htm

One of the tests for how well you read people is how well your sense of humor works. If you often take what people say literally when they mean it as a joke you may need to work on reading people. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070803141811.htm

Where I am going is that you may simply have a short fuse, but if you find yourself working against your own best interests because of anger you need to look for a pattern to where anger starts.

Now the Irish side of my family just goes off now and then. They just see themselves as the center of everyone's actions and take offense from people who don't even notice that they are there. I get similar high strung reactions from some of my friends with Italian backgrounds. If you have English or German ancestors cold blood may just be automatic.
 
Just remember if you get mad, they win,

Excellent point. I find, when confronted with an anger producing situation.... Kill them with kindness until THEY break and show anger.

Exercise logic and self control before doing ANYTHING (speaking, acting). Essentially, STOP AND THINK!!! Use the LOGIC your free mind possesses to overcome the "old brain" instinct that pushes to anger. Control comes from "Logical thinking". The "logic/anger" battle rages in your own mind and I'm not happy with myself if logic loses the battle in any situation.

I look at it this way; No one makes ME angry. I allow MYSELF to get angry (or not). Anger is something that I allow MYSELF to express and I don't like giving ANYONE else control of it!
 
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There are people however who seem rocks. They can control emotions. How do people do that? Do they pay a price? what is the trade off?

Some people are just naturally levelheaded. Some people learn it over time. Some people get broken into it.

Being emotional but maintaining control is idea. Being too emotionless makes life pointless.
 
I have found in my personal experience that feelings will do either 1 or 2 things: Kill you, if you keep them stuffed inside, or help you live. I am a recovering alcoholic, and for many, many, many years, I kept my feelings stuffed it. Except for anger and rage. Although I honestly did not know ANY other feelings. When I got sober, I learned how to deal with myself and my feelings. I learned how to appropriately express my feelings. I continue to do so. I have been sober for a little over 20 years now. (By the good Grace of God.) I have learned that life is short, and I do NOT take anything or anyone for granted. I tell the people that I care about an love, that I care about them, and LOVE them. When I am an angry, I deal with it right there and then, and then let it go. I cry when I am happy, sad, scared, angry; crying for me is a healing release. I feel bad for people that can not cry. I have a whole plethora of emotions, and I express them. I dunno if this helps or not. But, it is my $.02 for what it is worth.
 
One of the ways to seem smarter than you really are and more level-headed than you really are is to cheat. If you know that you have a difficult conversation coming up, honestly and fairly analyze the situation (with a reasonable amount of consideration for the other person's situation and feelings) and rehearse what you want to say before you get into the discussion. Rehearse being in control and calm. When you talk you will have an unfair advantage over the other person. You can be the wise and reasonable person in the conversation. You generally will build up your credibility and reach better conclusions. The practice will even help you with your emotions. This is what I consider cheating, having a head start over the other people you have to deal with.
 
This is coming from someone like you. I don't believe I know any better but I'm willing to share some thoughts.

Personally, emotions are just part of it. Dig deeper and I suppose you'll realize there's more to it than that because emotions are just the tail end of what's "wholly" you and there is no "tried-and-true" formula for this, even I am still in this process myself.

In the end, your character and how you behave with what life deals you boils down to age and maturity. Notice I separated them because to me they're not really the same; the older your are (this is age), it is assumed that you have had a lot of experiences and have learned from them. When you have allowed yourself to learn and accept what you have gone thru in your past, you become more ready to face the now and the future (this is maturity). However, I've seen a lot of older people fail miserably on both accounts in spite of being older.

I do believe however that there are certain truths which if you accept, things become slightly easier:

1. Who said life was fair? The sooner one realizes this the better.

2. There will always be BOTH good times as well as bad. It hurts a lot more if you dwell on the bad mostly.

3. In the end, whether good or bad outcomes, all you can blame or count on is yourself. This is actually our greatest strength, to realize you're standing on your own two feet.
 
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My Dad. I love my Dad , he is a great man in my eyes. He is also one of the coldest people I have known.
Since he was diagnosed with Parkinson's and has gotten older he has mellowed with age but , I recall perfectly how he shed not a single tear at my Grandparents ( his mom and dad's ) funerals.
I recall other times he did not show any emotions towards certain events.


I wish that I could do what my Dad has done , I wish I had near zero emotions .
 
I think emotions are great... as long as they can be controlled. I can give you some personal experience about crying. I'm not a cryer - usually. I didn't cry at my wedding like some do and my wife was furious about that - go figure. But I broke down and cried like a baby at our daughter's birth. It was a good time for that, a good time to let those emotions out.

As far as pain is concerned, I believe it is a learned response, or rather responding to pain is. I have a nephiew who cires at the drop of a hat, and I have noticed that every time he falls, hurts himself his parents are right there treating every scrape and cut as if it were the end of the world. I think there is a time to show someone that "hey, it's not a big deal". Yeah, it may hurt now for a little, but get over it. In that respect, I have noticed that my daughter, who is 10 months old and trying to walk... every time she falls she looks at me or mom to see if it's worth crying about. She is looking at our response to know how she should react. When she falls and gets a scratch or something, then we are right there telling her it's ok, but we don't do that with every little tumble.

I honestly think it takes a real man to be able to decide to cry, regardless of what everyone thinks about it. On the other hand, I've got a friend who cries non stop and he's a grown man. He doesn't ball or wail, just tears come down when he gets emotional. I don't want to judge him, but I would hate to be like that. There is a time and place for everything.

That's my $.02 take it or leave it.
 
There are two issues here: one is what you feel, the other is what you do.

What you do is the easier of the two to control. There are a number of tricks you can use to help you with this. I can list a few, and you can make up more of your own, what's important is to find what works for you. When you're feeling one emotion, imagine feeling a different one, and force yourself to act according to the different one. You may have experience with this at work with a difficult customer or client, who you can't yell at, so you say, "thank you, sir" in your most polite voice. Or, imagine you're an actor, whose job it is to portray a certain emotion in your actions. An actor does this even when they don't feel that emotion, or when they feel a different one, and so can you. When I was in high school, I had a girlfriend who could be a bit difficult or frustrating at times. When I felt like yelling and strangling her, I would instead give her a hug and say, "I love you," (reaction formation) and you know what, it calmed us both down. You can imagine a different emotion and act accordingly, and the more you do it, the better you get at it. Think of it as a "fake it until you make it" approach. How would a happy person act right now?- then do that. Or ask yourself how Clint Eastwood would handle this, and do your best Clint Eastwood. Next thing you know, it's handled the way you think it should be. (Feel free to substitute James Bond, Hannibal Lecter, Axl Rose, Gecko45, Micky Mouse, or whoever else you think would handle the situation best.) The best idea, though, is to picture an ideal version of yourself, the person who would handle everything exactly the way you wish you could. Spend time with this character until you know him inside and out, until you can predict his every move, and approve of each one. Then, act like him, as best you can, every moment. Keep it up, and you'll find yourself getting closer and closer to the person you want to be.

To list just two competing psychological theories of human motivation and behavior, one states that human behavior is teleological (that is, driven by its goals) while the other states that behavior is driven from behind, by whatever force (emotion) pushed it. Now you can see the difference, between people acting in order to get something they want versus people acting because of how something makes them feel. Rather than debate which theory is correct from a descriptive standpoint, think of them as two options, between which you are free to choose. Now you can act a certain way because it will get you what you want, or you can act a certain way because of how you feel. Which of the two is most likely to give the outcome that will make you happiest?

It can be difficult to control your emotions at times, but you are always in control of your actions.

Controlling your actions can have a beneficial effect on your emotions.

As far as controlling your emotions, which is more difficult, you can still do it, you just have to understand them. One way is just to take the emotion you're feeling and look at it. Take it out of your head and examine it, like it's a thing in your hands. Doing this will help you feel it less, and will help you understand it more. Once you're done examining it, you can toss it out the window if you don't want it anymore, or you can take it back inside yourself if you like - that's up to you.

There are two ways that emotions take hold of us. Sometimes they creep in slowly, a little bit at a time, other times they just show up at once, fully formed and everywhere. Either way, when you feel an emotion taking control of you, you can stop it. Really, you can. It's yours, and it can't even exist, let alone do anything, without your permission. Once you realize this, and revoke permission to an emotion you don't want, you'll see that you are the one in control. After that it's just practice and technique.
 
Sometimes it helps if you can figure out what big issues are putting pressure on you that aren't getting taken care of. Right now I am pissed off most of the time. That's primarily because we are short handed at work and I am lead engineer on 4 projects instead of 1. All of the projects are coming up short because we don't have enough people on them. I am getting mad and resentful at people who are not part of the problem. I have to control myself and remember what I am really mad about and not take it out on family and friends.
 
I have been victimized by them a few times in my life with family, friends, partners, work and have acted against my own interest because of them. I find myself very intolerant of people, get angry easily, not very political, get suspicious, get hurt easily, get offended easily.

Hello Gazaati,

I’ll address you directly because I might understand what you are going trough.

The best thing you can do is accept that you will feel fear, anger, guilt and frustration from time to time and that you might be, perhaps because of past experience, more susceptible to these emotions than other people.

But don’t allow these emotions to fix certain thoughts in your head. Allow yourself some time to deal with the anxiety they cause and then let them go.

All negative emotions feed of each other. Fear and guilt will often lead to anger or depression, anger and depression disconnect you both emotionally and intellectually from other people. Somebody who feels disconnected from others will suffer, because we all want to belong . You should break that cycle.

If you can make decisions (even very small ones) based on what you believe and feel is right and don’t expect to be rewarded by doing the right thing, that can be very liberating. Our mind is free if we allow it to be free.

If you do things because you want to, nobody can victimize you. If you are no longer a victim, you can create your own boundaries.

Don’t help people because you expect them to change. Don’t be kind to people because you want their sympathy and support. If you choose to be kind, do so because you want to. Regardless of what you might expect in return.

If you feel some people aren’t worth the effort, then remove yourself from those people. Often people cling to those who will disappoint them the most. It’s a very human behavior to repeat a bad experience because there is strong desire to do better this time. But try to avoid that trap.

Rafael
 
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