On CSU campus carry

[Charlie Mike]

I'm a criminology LE student and I attend CSU Fresno as well as live in their dorms. During my first semester, I worked in the PD monitoring CCD cameras. A few officers had no problem with my CRKT M16-14 (which I later sold to one of them) and my Buck/Strider. The rest of them said anything over 2.5" is illegal on campus. I knew this was untrue and I cracked the CPC on this one. The penal code seems to apply only to fixed blades over 2.5".

PC 626.10 (b) Any person, except a duly appointed peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another state or the federal government who is carrying out official duties while in this state, a person summoned by any officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while the person is actually engaged in assisting any officer, or a member of the military forces of this state or the United States who is engaged in the performance of his or her duties, who brings or possesses any dirk, dagger, ice pick, or knife having a fixed blade longer than 21/2 inches upon the grounds of, or within, any private university, the University of California, the California State University, or the California Community Colleges is guilty of a public offense, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.

Opinions please

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[This message has been edited by solid_soldier (edited 02-14-2001).]

 

[medusaoblongata]

That's right, campus police at my school didn't have it right either. Now check your school rules, they might be more restrictive. Mine prohibit all fixed blades, and anything with a blade over 5".

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[Whirlwind]

I wonder of that lunitic who planned the mass-murder will have any effect on this.

 

[Charlie Mike]

I don't know, did the mass murderer BG have knives on him. I thought it was just guns.

Medusa:
My school rules say the same thing.

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*Walks away from the scene of the battle, Hind gunship in flames. Lights a Marlboro.*

 

[Rick1955]

Common problem. Many LEOs do not know the law and some twist it so they can get you on most anything. (Before I get jumped about this, I am not anti-cop - just stating my experience).

I was once told that my Boy Scout knife carried in a leather pouch on my belt was a concealed deadly weapon by a SC LEO. I asked him how so and he said ANY knife was a deadly weapon and the pouch concealed it - so therefore it was a concealed deadly weapon. He left without charging me. I checked. The knife WAS legal in that state. The concealed part was a little tricker, the law did not specified what concealed was.

I have a similar complaint about blade length laws. The law often specify blade length as a determining factor whether a blade is legal or not, but the same law usually does not specify how the blade it to be measured. I have seen LEOs use all kinds of creative ways to measure a knife blade - in an attempt to "make" the blade illegal.

Schools are tricky too. The law may prohibit knifes or school policy might. We just had a teacher suspended here in Texas for using a pocketknife to cut something innocent during a class. Texas law does not prohibit adults from carrying legal knives at school. Neither did school policy. But a kid told her parents who complained and the teacher was suspended. If it were me I would fight that in court if necessary.

People will use kitchen knives everyday and give it no thought, yet panic at the sight of a pocketknife in public. Weird.

If people would just read laws at their face value rather than twisting them to mean what they want them to mean, we would be better off. But there are always those people who are always trying to get something on someone. Personally I have better things to do than to try to find ways to get people in a bind. Most people do that to themselves just fine.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by solid_soldier:
I'm a criminology LE student and I attend CSU Fresno as well as live in their dorms. During my first semester, I worked in the PD monitoring CCD cameras. A few officers had no problem with my CRKT M16-14 (which I later sold to one of them) and my Buck/Strider. The rest of them said anything over 2.5" is illegal on campus. I knew this was untrue and I cracked the CPC on this one. The penal code seems to apply only to fixed blades over 2.5".

PC 626.10 (b) Any person, except a duly appointed peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another state or the federal government who is carrying out official duties while in this state, a person summoned by any officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while the person is actually engaged in assisting any officer, or a member of the military forces of this state or the United States who is engaged in the performance of his or her duties, who brings or possesses any dirk, dagger, ice pick, or knife having a fixed blade longer than 21/2 inches upon the grounds of, or within, any private university, the University of California, the California State University, or the California Community Colleges is guilty of a public offense, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.

Opinions please

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