One Sharp Scrapivore!!

worldwood

worldwood

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I have had this scrappy for a while now, well over a year and its been used a lot and never sharpened. So it was time for some edge love.

It started with close to a 22° per side edge. Which is a higher angle than i prefer on knives so i reprofiled the edge to 17° per side. This took a while as the scrapivore is ran harder than most SR101 knives but it was well worth the effort.

Im using the KME diamond kit. Which made this task so much easier and i cant say enough about this sharpening system. If your like me and dont do a perfect job at free handing i highly recommend one of these kits. They are worth every dollar and the learning curve is minimal. In fact a little common sense is about all it takes.

Here it is at 300 grit.

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And here it is at 1500 grit!!

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This is now 1 sharp scrapivore!!!
 
Great job mate !!!! I have been tossing and turning about sharpening tools again recently. My Work Sharp does well and I like it (so much so I have been looking at gettng the new KO version) but I have also been looking at the guided systems (Edge Pro/Wicked Edge) but now the KME as well..... Oh where will this maddness stop !!! How long did it take you to reprofile that one mate ??

Andy
 
Thanks bud!

It honestly took me a little longer than it should have because i stopped in between grits as i had other things going on. If i had to guess the combined amount of time id say over an hour for sure, but maybe not quite 2 hours.

But the modded BK14 you can see in the picture below it only took half an hour or so and that was a dull convex that i also turned into a shaving sharp V edge. It showed me just how much a difference harder ran steels can make. On the BK14 i was getting a burr quick and easy and quickly moving up to the next grits, but on the scrapivore i had to work harder for that burr. There is a HUGE difference between 56-58HRC and 62HRC

The KME is awesome. I need more knives to sharpen now LMAO. I already ordered the 50 grit diamond plate for it, that will be used to put new edges on knives i make and im going to order the 140 grit plate and one of the KME strop pads with 1.5 micron drops next month for it. Ill be able to take a knife with no edge at all up to a scary sharp polished edge when its all said and done!
 
WW,
Can you check what is the biggest thickness of a knife that KME will take?
I've been using DMT kit for years, but it will not work for over 3/16.
Thanks
 
elof_alv said:
WW,
Can you check what is the biggest thickness of a knife that KME will take?
I've been using DMT kit for years, but it will not work for over 3/16.
Thanks
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It will works on my chopweiler no problem. Thats 1/4" thick. Some people say it wont work past 7-8" blade but i tried it with a 10" custom chopper that is .22" thick and it fit no problems as well and the rod reached both sides without issues.

A little common sense goes a long way. once you hit a certain weight the device will obviously not be able to support the knife, but simply using a block of some sort under the handle to keep it from tipping over will solve that issue.

Ill see if my competition cutter fits in there, its .32-.35" thick with a 10"blade and weighs over 800 grams.... YUP!!

Notice i had to put a couple pieces of steel on the back of the KME, and support the handle to keep it from tipping.

Im not sharpening this one... Doesnt need it. Just showing it would fit.
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This thing is AWESOME. Works excellently and is half the price of some of the other guided systems. Highly recommend trying one yourself!!
 
Thanks bud!
You could clamp or screw the base to your bench to stop it from tipping.
 
Indeed you could!! But really i have been using it mostly at my desk, while watching TV :D I like the portability of it.
 
Love my Scrapivore. Carry as a necker almost daily. Used it just the other day to pry open a locked chest!
 
Yessir, i really like the scrapivore too. The reason i chose it on my combo survival sheath setup was due to the prybar end. I have had loads of neckers/skeleton knives over the last couple years but this one can function as more than a knife. And the prybar end does come in handy.
 
Very Nice!! Love that edge!!
 
:thumbup: Nice work.


Word of warning (though you may already know this): using a longer blade in that guided system isn't going to give you the same edge-angle along the edge unless you re-clamp the blade at different spots, it's the reason folk don't recommend them for larger blades. The angle-setting is only accurate for that setting height and distance at "position 0", as you move away from that spot the angle gets lower as the distance increases. Detailed discussion of it on the WE-forum: http://www.wickededgeusa.com/forum/...f-guided-rod-sharpeners?limitstart=0&start=10
The EdgePro-Apex doesn't have a clamp because you're supposed to move the knife along the platform where the edge-angle will remain constant, but like you said it's ~2x $$$
 
Im glad you stopped by brother!!!!

I dont see anything there about the KME, but im guessing its still the same concept. It seems like there could be more user error with the apex as you have to hold the knife steady and keep it exactly flat by hand. Although i never tried one so i cant say for certain, but i do love the fact the KME makes it pretty dang easy and foolproof... At least up to a certain sized blade.

Im not going to lie that thread confuses the heck out of me. I see X=5 Y+J over 30 xmtap type stuff and think back to struggling at algebra LMAO

It looks like though, from 15-20° per side it stay pretty dang close to the same angle up to 6". The lowest i can go is 17, According to the chart it would seem that on the low end it may be as low as 16° and at the high end it may be as high as 18° out to 6"... This seems like it wont make much difference in use honestly. Free hand sharpening would likely have a larger variance.

And id never go more than 20, so as long as the blade is 6" or less i dont think i would have anything much to worry about. Now on a larger knife what you are saying is to re-clamp the blade towards the tip to create a new "position 0"?

It would make sense if things stayed close to the same as those charts, then on a 10" blade at 17° per side the variance could be as much as (at most) 3-4°.... But im also not great at math either :D But this could indeed make a big difference in use. a 13° angle and a 21° angle will perform a lot different and a 13° angle will not have anywhere near the strength as a 21° angle. But if i reclamp it 4" from the tip then what you are saying is it will make a new position 0 and keep the angle closer to the same?

Now... This comp cutter already has more than 1 edge angle on the blade, as its designed to do quite a bit of different stuff in BladeSports, and i have no plans on sharpening it with the KME... Really i would send it back to Dan before a competition if it needs it. But id still like to learn how to use this on larger knives anyways!!

Spread some knowledge on me Chiral :D
 
worldwood said:
But if i reclamp it 4" from the tip then what you are saying is it will make a new position 0 and keep the angle closer to the same?
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Not speaking for Chiral, but to answer the question, Yes. The greater the distance from the pivot to the point of contact with the blade edge, the shallower the degree of angle. As you say, not a big deal on small blades, but much more variance on the longer blades. Perfect for the scrapivore, though, and it looks scary sharp! :eek: :)
 
Thanks guys. I'm always learning and enjoying. My Scrapivore has not needed sharpening yet, but one has been used quite a bit (I have about 4). Love my little blades but I keep switching up. Swampwarden (my son loves his - only blade he carries) Scrapivore, and I also have the BK11. I think I've opened more beer tops with my R3 though. Handle in hand, blade away and down, then using R3 spine, lift against top leveraging bottle holding hand. Raise BeeVerAGE and drink!
 
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