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Dan Wesson 44 mag ten inch interchangable barrel . There is also a six and four inch barrel . I don,t own them .

I want a cartridge with three bullets in it . To get the most mass they would be cylindrical in shape with flat tops so they could rest one atop the other . If that wouldn,t work round balls one atop the other but then space would be wasted . Obviously I may be asking a lot . I know you guys can deliver .You can modify my demands as long as it doesn,t take away from the end result .
 
Gun's and ammo did this fifteen or so years ago Kevin...if I remember right they loaded three wadcutters atop eachother and somekind charge of powder and BLAMMO! three holes in the target.;)
 
Krull , you gotta admit I,m creative . I,ll try and scare that data up and see if it is in line with what I need . Do you happen to remember any of the results ? Is there comprimises , inefficiency or other negative results And mostly just thanks !
 
As I remember it wasn't so great past 20yd or so;the rounds would spread out after that.

At 7yds it'd pretty much tear a big'ol hole in the target and in 15yrds you'd end up with three holes in an inch or two.

Lastly I think it was Ross (I'm gonna slaughter this name) Seifried who did it.

Good luck! and hell one of us probably tried it already! :D so you'll get more responses.

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Ok I dug this up.Dean Grennell in his "ABC's of Reloading", 5th edition has a chapter on multiple bullets.
off of another forum,it's for a .357 max but no reason it wouldn't do for a .44
 
I,m actually looking for a twelve inch sized spread at nine feet ! Fussy cuss Aint I ? Thanks again . I can,t wait for further rsponses and then I,m gonna want it in a lee hand loader ! Did I mention a pretty pink bow ? L:O:L
 
I think most anything will stay stuck together at nine feet,even round ball..could be wrong though...let others speak up.;)
 
You'll need opposite angles on the first two in so the angles will help seperate the bullets at a prescribed distance. The more angle the more spread.
Or you could make it a three barreled gun with one source of ignitions like the old Crow's Foot Pistols.:thumbup: ;) :D :cool:
 
Something similar has been tried at least once in the past. Check this out:

http://www.thegunzone.com/salvo.html

IIRC, the gummint's duplex rounds featured a slightly angled base on the second bullet; as this bullet left the muzzle the combustion gases would deflect it slightly from center to create dispersion on the target.

So consider this:

First bullet is a Minie style projectile. Second is a cylinder. Last bullet is also a cylinder, but with the angled base. All three bullets nest together, wasting no space. The first bullet is aerodynamically superior to the second and ought to strike a little higher, especially if it weighs less. The second bullet shoots to point of aim, and the last bullet deflects a bit in a random direction. Dispersion can be tuned by changing the weights of the projectiles.

This would be pretty much impossible to do in the garage but it could theoretically be done. You'd have to ask yourself if the time and cost involved would be worth it.

Just jamming three balls in, or cutting a cylindrical bullet into thirds, would probably be easier. I'd think the hardest thing would be to get all three bullets far enough into the case to be secure while leaving enough room for a useable powder charge. With the right powder and bullets, I'm sure that it can be done.

I considered asking why you'd want to do this, but then I remembered some of my more foolish experiments from a few years ago and realized that if I have to ask, I probably wouldn't understand the answer. :)
 
Dave this may be one of those "if you have to ask " questions . I am glad of one thiing in particular. Everyone up till now has been telling me it can,t be done ! I have gotten more useable , straight deal advice since I moved into the Cantina than is right reasonable to expect .
Seeing as I am looking for a spread as opposed to precision could I do something like this with a lee hand loader ? Thanks .
 
Seeing as I am looking for a spread as opposed to precision could I do something like this with a lee hand loader ?
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It sounds like you are trying to re-invent a buckshot load.

n2s
 
not2sharp said:
It sounds like you are trying to re-invent a buckshot load.

n2s
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I think Dave and Yvsas idea is the most optimal use of space . In other words , most bang for the buck . I don,t think that more than three projectiles is advisable in such a small cartridge . Unless you look at the birdshot carridges available for the 44 mag . They are not much good except for varmints at close range .
 
I have some factory Remington .357 Mag ammo that was loaded with three projectiles. You can see the top projectile is a round ball, but I'm not sure of the bottom two. I don't think I ever shot any of the ammo, so I can't tell you how it patterns. You might want to E-mail Remington to see if they had made it for the .44 Mag too. They might be able to give you some help with reloading data.

Malcolm
 
Pull 45 ACP 1911 from holster. Aim at bad guy. Pull trigger three times. Three holes in target. Problem solved, or am I missing something fundamental?
 
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