Ontario Bob Dozier Arrow

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Anyone else spy this one? I'm not the biggest fan of dagger grinds, but the Rat 1 is a gem and if they keep that quality it seems like it could really be a really solid budget option. Under $45 for D2, G10 and a Dozier design? Sounds pretty darn good to me.
 
New model, just spotted it this week. In outline, it looks a bit like the Benchmade Pardue 35x(x) series. I always liked that style.
 
any idea on release date? i sussed around a little but didn't see anything in particular on their site.
 
Looks sweet to me too. It appears to be the same design as the old KaBar Dozier Thorn and his current "Raptor series Thorn" that seems identical in shape but made with carbon fiber. A lot less than Bob's $400 price or the KaBar price of ~100, but the KaBar had his tab-lock IIRC.
 
brownshoe said:
Looks sweet to me too. It appears to be the same design as the old KaBar Dozier Thorn and his current "Raptor series Thorn" that seems identical in shape but made with carbon fiber. A lot less than Bob's $400 price or the KaBar price of ~100, but the KaBar had his tab-lock IIRC.
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Yeah, despite my general dislike of liner locks I think this one might end up in the collection. The design speaks to me and the price sure is right. Hoping it has the same buttery action the Rat 1 does and I'll be a happy man.
 
I just received mine. I am going to return it. It does not have liners, which would not normally be an issue, but the scales are super thin and flexible. The whole knife flexs as you use it. It also has plastic washers. In addition, there is no blade stop pin. It looks like there is some sort of internal stop milled into the scales. I do not have confidence in the blade stop.

This knife could be great if OKC added more pillars to stablize the scales to make the knife more rigid (or make the scales thicker), and added a metal pin for a blade stop.
 
AmosPaul said:
I just received mine. I am going to return it. It does not have liners, which would not normally be an issue, but the scales are super thin and flexible. The whole knife flexs as you use it. It also has plastic washers. In addition, there is no blade stop pin. It looks like there is some sort of internal stop milled into the scales. I do not have confidence in the blade stop.

This knife could be great if OKC added more pillars to stablize the scales to make the knife more rigid (or make the scales thicker), and added a metal pin for a blade stop.
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Yeah, that's somewhat disappointing. I don't mind the lack of liners, bjt I definitely want a reliable stop pin.
 
AmosPaul said:
I just received mine. I am going to return it. It does not have liners, which would not normally be an issue, but the scales are super thin and flexible. The whole knife flexs as you use it. It also has plastic washers. In addition, there is no blade stop pin. It looks like there is some sort of internal stop milled into the scales. I do not have confidence in the blade stop.

This knife could be great if OKC added more pillars to stablize the scales to make the knife more rigid (or make the scales thicker), and added a metal pin for a blade stop.
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Thank you. Looks like I'll pass.
jstrange said:
Too bad :( I had high hopes for this one.
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I really like mine,although the features or lack of them as stated by the previous posts are considerations-I did some mini tests with cardboard boxes and some wood and the knife did real well and touch up was easy, was also pretty comfortable to use.The Arrow has excellent deployment and super easy pocket carry even though this isn't the most rugged knife you can buy ,I kind of consider it a gentlemans knife,I think eventually more people will warm up to it,i've blown a lot more cash on lesser knives...so for me it's a thumbs up
 
Just throwing it out there but I saw knifeworks was selling the rat 1 with d2 in cf scales and the regular plastic ones
 
AmosPaul said:
I just received mine. I am going to return it. It does not have liners, which would not normally be an issue, but the scales are super thin and flexible. The whole knife flexs as you use it. It also has plastic washers. In addition, there is no blade stop pin. It looks like there is some sort of internal stop milled into the scales. I do not have confidence in the blade stop.

This knife could be great if OKC added more pillars to stablize the scales to make the knife more rigid (or make the scales thicker), and added a metal pin for a blade stop.
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I just got one and don't see any of those items as problems. The pivot construction is just like a flipper with the internal blade stop. Since the stop is integral to the scale, there's no way for it to wear and get loose. There is a little flex in the scales but only if you squeeze real hard. Bob Terzuola uses "plastic washers" instead of bronze because he says nylatron work better and doesn't need lubrication. This knife moves well.

It is very much like a larger version of the Pardue BM530 series back when they had liner locks, but at a price of $45 it's a lot cheaper. Blade shaved hair out of the box, was centered and even though I tried real hard, I could find no fit/finish problems. Thumb stud placement is a little old school, but within a day I was opening it as quick as a flipper. Has the great Dozier and Terzuola touch of the recessed pocket clip. Only thing I'd like different is a little harder heat treat (58 is what it's at now) for their D2, but I understand why not :) Even though it's a dagger, it had no problem with an apple, hollow ground blade. Great value for the money. Get one if you like dagger blades.

One final note, if you like your daggers sharpened on both edges, this is the folder for you. The top edge is unsharpened, but totally enclosed by the scales. You could readily turn into a double edge knife. If it wasn't illegal where I live, I'd have a double edged Dozier folder :)
 
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Just saw it in GUNS magazine. Thought I'd better look one up.

I'll grab one real quick and give you my thoughts on it as well, for what they're worth.
 
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