Ontario Knives (Ranger/ Rat?)

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I'm looking to purchase a Ranger RD-6, and another Rat 6.
My issue is that I've heard some pretty disturbing things about Ontario's heat treat.
If anyone has experience with Ontario's Rat knives or Ranger knives please let me know how they stack up to the original's.

Thank you.
 
I don't have an Ontario Ranger, but I have a couple original Rangers and from what everyone says so far, the Ontario Rangers are just as good as the originals. Aside from that, Justin Gingrich (Ranger Knives owner) has been working closely with Ontario to get the products right. I'm pretty sure Justin said the Ontario Rangers go through the same heat treat he puts them through, so they should be pretty good.
 
Forget them both. Get the REAL RAT. Rat Cutlery RC-6.

I aggree, if you want a RAT, get a real RAT and buy the RAT Cutlery RC-6. They make bada$$ blades and have an awesome warranty. No worries about quality with those guys!
 
I dont know why but from my experience I have trusted the ranger over the rat for ontario but if you want a RAT like others have said get the real thing...
 
Don't buy a RAT from Ontario .. get a real Rat. Wait, others have said that..

I haven't handled a Ranger, and now that they are associated with Ontario, I won't.
 
Same as posted above if you are looking for RATS. Jeff and Mike at Rat Cultery have outstanding products, a second to none warranty, and run their business with good ole fashioned values. Really great folks to deal with.
 
RAT Cutlery is the way to go.:thumbup: I KNOW what their quality is & the integrity of the company.
 
Looks like the jury's in!
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Some of Ontario's prices seem to good to be true.
I just didn't want to screw myself out of a good knife to save a few pennies.
 
I was all up for ordering an RD9 (salivating, in fact)...called Justin about ordering one to make sure they were in stock...and damn near cried when I heard the words "Ontario is producing them for me, now."

::le sigh:: Day late and a dollar short....story of my life.

They say that RD9's by Justin are like the Bald Headed Killer Bear of Clair County...still out there; crazy and bloodthirsty as ever.

I'll +1 to the other reccomendations: get the real Rats from Rat Cutlery. No worries of QC with them. RC5 is next on my list, aamof. I've heard that thing is a beast.
 
i have all the knives listed, i have justins rangers ontarios rats and RAT cutlery rats and my favorite by far is the beautiful blades coming out of rat cutlery. Justin makes some great knives but for most of my purposes military or not i find myself reaching for a RAT.
 
I'm a RAT cutlery lover and if you want a RAT get the real RAT. They are amazing. Everything about their product and the way they run their business is exceptional.

That being said I found my humble collection lacking a big chopper and I picked up one of the new Ontario Rangers. If RAT offered a big chopper there is no question that that's what I'd have. But they don't so I'm in the peculiar position of giving my dollars to both companies in spite of the goings on. I was swayed by the fact that it's a Ranger and Justin has the reputation of being a stand up guy so I held my nose and pulled the trigger.

I got an RD9. It's a big chunk of steel. I bought it with the intention of it being strictly a user. It won't be babied in any way. I've chopped, batonned, cut, etc. and it's been fine. Fit and finish was ok but again, that's not why I bought it.

There was a slight wave in the edge about 1.5" in front of the choil. My friend who also purchased one had the same thing. Not a big deal to me. I wonder if it's an artifact of their grinder type or process they use. The handle slabs also did not match the knife handle very well. I contacted the dealer I purchased the knife from and he forwarded the pictures I sent to Ontario. To their credit they quickly wrote and wanted to replace the handle slabs with a better fitting pair. I thanked them but told them it wouldn't be necessary since I was planning on modifying them a little myself anyway. For their quick response and desire to make it right I have to give Ontario a :thumbup:.

These things weren't that important to me. Maybe they would be to you. I don't know. I've started making my own homemade micarta and making new handles for my knives. I made a couple for the RD. I also have used it to try sharpening convex edges. Like I said, I haven't babied it at all. It looks used and beat up a little (I still need some practice sharpening convex edges) but I've really enjoyed it.
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