Ontario SP6 VS. Ontario SP43 (pictures & Video)

jac_solar said:
What is a "militia load out/plate carrier"?
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It's what an over tactical wannabe modern day minute man redneck keeps in his garage so one day him and a bunch of other guys can go all Red Dawn on a bunch of foreigners come to "invade" or when they get tired of those damn liberals and decide to do something about it.

Sorry if I offend anyone but I'm very anti-militia. You people are exactly why they want to ban guns.

As far as the knives go, SP-6 for "combat" fantasies and the SP-43 for woods/survival/bushcraft but it would make a fine fighting knife as well

EDIT: If you have military or police training/experience I support you having tactical gear. If you are the aforementioned breed of redneck, take it down a notch and leave the all the tactical gear to those who actually know how to use it.
 
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TheJeepster said:
I have a college degree. My commander is a Doctor as is the state commander. Most all of us have college degrees and are in law enforcement and the medical field. I train in first ad, I am CERT certified, we train in map reading, land navigation and search and rescue, I bet we spend less than 1% of our time shooting as our mission is to protect the citizens of the state and that includes natural disaster. We believe that our government does not need to spend a lot of money to buy emergence professionals when the people should already be trained.
New Orleans was a disaster because the people were uneducated and did not know what to do, well we do not plan on having to wait for FEMA, we are the help and we will take care of our own and not rely on federal help since it is the states duty to help others, not the Federals Governments.

I find it insulting to have set thru years of college and training and surround myself with educated intelligent people to be called a redneck by some guy who has never met me.

About 90% of the group are cops and vets from Iraq and Afghanistan.
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If your "loadout" looks like anything pictured, then that's an actual cause for concern. I can tell you that I'd expect law enforcement to be arresting people like you who are running around dressed like the military without having any actual authority that actual military/LE/NG personnel would have. I mean, are you serious with that? So, what you do is essentially get together with other people with a military combat soldier fetish to dress up and play soldier on the weekends?

Be insulted if you like, but I can tell you that any fantasy you had of showing up in full "battle-rattle" combat loadouts to any emergency situation and expecting a warm welcome is just that, a fantasy. Your asses would be arrested on site, if not shot at by police who thought you were extremists looking to take advantage of the situation to cause trouble.
 
I withdraw the question.
 
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This guys thread is about two knives, talk about the knives and keep your political opinions and/or all other derogatory remarks out of his thread.
 
wroughndt said:
This guys thread is about two knives, talk about the knives and keep your political opinions and/or all other derogatory remarks out of his thread.
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Please keep your remarks on topic. Thank you.
 
My question is: what do you actually want to DO with the knife? If you just want to hang it from the front of some wargear, what does it matter what it is?

If you're just going to train to put down the insurgents with it a stick dobbed in red paint would work.

What do you want it to accomplish?
 
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TheJeepster said:
You do realize I am a teacher. I teach Jr. High Shop, I guess you can not get more redneck than being a teacher.

All of us teachers just need to grow up and get a clue hu? Nothing but teeth missing sister kissing rednecks.
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I realized when I made the post that I was generalizing, but you have to admit a lot of the "Minute men" these days are no more than conspiracy theorists that are waiting to... well as I said go all Red Dawn. If you are a one of the minute men that rises in crises instead of stowing up a bunch of guns and waiting to revolutionize than more power to you. We need more of those sorts of people but unfortunately, in my experience "modern minute man/militia members aren't that" aren't that.

Lets get back to knives
 
Yes, lets stop the trolling and get back to civil discussion, before I have to hand out more infractions, please.
 
I've toyed with the idea of buying an SP6, as I consider it an upgrade from the SP1 that I already own, but the SP43's full flat grind is very appealing as an all-purpose fixed blade. To be honest, I never really checked it out in detail until seeing this post, but the SP43 is definitely on my radar now.
 
TheDandyLion said:
Sorry if I offend anyone but I'm very anti-militia. You people are exactly why they want to ban guns.

EDIT: If you have military or police training/experience I support you having tactical gear. If you are the aforementioned breed of redneck, take it down a notch and leave the all the tactical gear to those who actually know how to use it.
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From what I can tell, you are "they."
 
I live in Louisiana and a lot of people suffered waiting on the government and law enforcement after Katrina. Personally, I'd rather run into Jeepster and his "redneck" wannabes than gun confiscating NOPD cops that left a lot of people defenseless. I own neither, but the SP43 looks like a more useful knife.
 
I don't knife fight so I dunno which is a better "combat blade", but I like my SP43 and certainly wouldn't want to get stabbed with it. I plan to get an SP6 eventually too.
 
TheJeepster said:
I know it, Ontario is a company that we have taken for granted, we have heard of them for years but really do not know much about them other than 10 years ago they had some chipping do to heat treating problems and that ESEE use to have their line made there.

I just started to check out the SP43 and why I made this thread. I will probably go with the SP6 seeing how I like the grind better but getting a comparison first seemed like a good idea.

Lots of us could have very nice knives at a really good low price if we searched more.

And to the haters, I am rubber and you are glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

Just incase you come up with a comeback I will say right now, I know you are but what am I?

Lol, what ever.:)
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I have known about Ontario for a good long while. Not everyone has taken them for granted man. And not everyone remembers them from the things you listed.

I remember buying a Spec Plus SP1 marine combat knife when I was 18 years old. I'm 40 now, you can do the math. That was way before the internet, or bladeforums, etc. I had bought a couple of Aitor knives, Anzas, and Taylor cutlery (cringe) knives before that, but that was the first "real" fixed blade I ever bought.

I walked into Knives Plus in Amarillo, TX and told the guy there I needed ONE knife that I could do everything with. He steered me toward a few that were much more expensive, but once he knew my price range, and knew I was being serious, the SP1 is what he recommended.

I bought it and for the next 6 years or so it was the only knife me and my family had or used (Aside from butter knives). I'm talking kitchen use, camping, daily carry, defense, gardening, whatever. Anything that needed cut - that knife cut it. It was even a tent stake a time or 2. I am being completely serious. Me and my young family relied on that knife to cut everything we needed cut for at least 6 years.

Ontario is not a modern company. I'm sure that many have stories that go back much farther than my 20 years or so. Not everybody knows them from their modern internet reputation.
 
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