Ontario XM-1 Folder

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Anyone have one of these? This thing looks like a beast! It also appears to be a genuine military issue knife but likely issued in very small numbers. I have really gotten into Ontario's military knives. They are just cool and they are the real deal, no wannabes. I picked up a couple ASEK pilot survival knives and I could not be more impressed with the quality of this knife. Now I want a XM-1 but would like to hear from anyone that has used them.

Thanks

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I wasn't too impressed. Been years since I sold it, so the main thing that stuck out in my mind was how enormously thick the handle was. It was probably close to an inch thick! Very uncomfortable to hold and pocket. Not inherently bad knife, but wasn't it for me
 
I have the XM-2T -- the slimmer and lighter version of the XM-1. It has the same dimensions, including the blade thickness. I like it, but the liner just looks a bit thin compared to the blade tang. That might just be an illusion, given how thick the blade it. Otherwise, it's a very solid piece of work. If the almost 1" thick handle of the XM-1 is anything like the thickness of the Retribution 2, it'll be a handful.
 
It is an awesome knife. I used to own one. Quality is all there. Felt very stout and sturdy, even tank-like.

In the end however, it was too much knife to carry with a pocket clip IMHO. The beast needed a sheath.

I sold mine for other knives, but I wish I still had it.

If I buy one again, I would have a sheath made for it, or maybe get the slim version.

Here it is next to a SAK Super Tinker:

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I had one (guess it was an earlier version, had a production number). It did serve it's purpose, pretty sturdy. It wound up with blade play up and down, so I sent it into Ontario. They sent me a brand new one. Ditto on the sheath, if I ever carry it, I'll go get a sheath for it (but I really like my ZT301 right now)
 
Thanks so much for the replies! I'm definitely going forward with a purchase. I want this knife for special occasions where I want something stronger than my usual EDC which is always a Spyderco. (usually an Endura, Delica, or Pacific Salt). I also like the idea that this is a military issue knife that carries a National Stock Number. The knife I use in this role right now is (don't laugh) a Smith & Wesson Extreme Ops Tanto, which I have three copies of at the moment. (this knife is a beast and feels great in the hand). Thanks again.

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i "had" one and hated it... wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to thick, between stupid and retarded thick.

there are far better options for stout knives. i would honestly pick up a cold steel american lawman or recon 1 at half the price.
 
I used to want this knife til I researched it. What I found was hit or miss. Some people say it's built like a tank. Other people say the liner lockbar is so thin that it gives out very easily. The NSN number doesn't mean much. Having talked to people that have served, they say a lot of NSN stocked items are rubbish. All that means is that the gov't basically got conned into paying for a large quantity of a given product, which doesn't necessarily mean that product is good. I'm not saying everything that has an NSN number is bad, and I certainly don't want to toot the DDR/HTM horn, but they do have knives which were granted NSN. That was just an example of the extreme ends of the scale. To that end, you might want to do a bit more research regarding that XM-1.

Regarding handle thickness, sometimes I feel like the Incredible Hulk because I prefer thick handles, and I don't even have that big hands. I have longer fingers, yea, but not giant palms. I just don't understand how slim handles can feel comfortable. Stuff that's like 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick just feels like it can wiggle around in my hand. Granted, there are exceptions if the designer puts finger grooves in the right area to help with gripping, but I find few designers that can pull this off. Even on my firearms with interchangeable backstraps, I use the large ones. Friends pick it up and go, "How the heck do you hold this thing?" I just shrug and pick it up.

I guess I'm one of those people where a Dr. Grip pen feels like I'm writing while holding a toothpick.
 
I have one, not really a great knife.Thick handles,thick blade but a really thin titanium liners.Took the knife apart and bent the liner lock a bit and now locks up nice.

Bottom line = It's one bulky,pricy,foreign(Italian)made That's not worth the MSRP or the street price.
 
Sorry to bring up an ancient thread... but are there any other comments on this knife? I have a SigTac Rangemaster and I absolutley love it. Wondering if anyone has anything positive to say about this knife...
 
i loved mine. had to be one of the sharpest out of box knives i got. i would recommend the slim line though. it was great but was a pocket monster

it had a nice feel, nice weight, it was honestly really smooth. it was twice what i expected when i got it in a trade.

only thing i didnt like was the thickness and the pocket clip. the pocket clip for me needed more tention
 
I like the look of the XM-18 and have considered one in the past, but as was mentioned above, the liners just strike me as too skinny compared to the blade thickness. I'd like them to be more like 3/32" thick. They could offset the weight to some degree by thinning the scales by half, like the slimmer version mentioned by Gadfly. Thicken the liners, use the slimmer scales, and you'd have a really phenomenal heavy duty folder.

edit: Not everyone has had issues with the thin liners, but a few have. It's more a personal, psychological thing for me. I just don't trust that anemic looking lock spring with that beefy 3/16" thick blade. ;)
 
I just got a great deal on the xm1. It is quite the stout beast. Blade down carry is annoying. The pocket clip is an obvious afterthought, once removed, the hand wraps around with surprising comfort. Weighing 6.24 oz., it's heft exudes confidence similar the buck's pouch folders. The titanium liners are visibly thicker than my only other liner lock, (spyderco sage1) and will unlikely be a problem considering the solid lockup. The liners are also milled. The thumb ridge jumping may be the best in all the lands with a thumb sized surface area, helpful with a gloved hand. Nitpicking a little, the laser etching along the blade spine is not spaced perfectly, also "combat deployed" has a faint air of mall ninja, spaced correctly or not.
The blade is razor sharp, feathering paper easily despite the thickness. This is my first experience with n690co and I am pleased to say the least.
 
I just made a custom blade up pocket clip, feels real nice compared to the blade down placement of the original clip. The wide scales made drilling easy. I've had some time to test the blade now, the width of the blade doesn't affect it's slicing ability as I previously thought. also, the liner only appears thin next to the monstrous scales, they are more than enough for any CUTTING task which is what these things are made for.
 
I have an Ontario XM strike fighter that I got from a military buddy when Ontario was trying to get the military to pick them up. It's the auto version, but it's built like a tank. Still one of my favorite knives.
 
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