Open discussion about rules

Nasty

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Folks - I have updated the rules post stuck to the top of the forum and will keep it locked, but wanted to give you a shot to discuss it if you feel the need to.

The bottom line is that I really only have 2 rules...act like a gentleman (or lady) :thumbup: and no spam :thumbdn: .

The less that I *have* to do regarding moderating, the more I can *enjoy* visiting and posting myself. :D
 
When I was asked to moderate a forum on Knife Forums I agreed and said I would have only these basic rules -- no profanity, no personal attacks, no badmouthing of competitors products. Anything else was fair game. We started over on the old knife forums and our forum soon became the most popular on that site. I think the reason for this was we were an oddity. I followed my own rule of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you," and this seemed to attract people. And I was younger and stronger then and could give a good deal of time to moderating very "iffy" discussions. I don't think I ever deleted a post, almost never edited a post, and never banned anybody although at times I was sorely tempted to do so. I used my Buddhist philosophy to good advantage and we waded through some very difficult discussions.

Then I was asked to moderate this forum on Blade Forums and agreed. Same philosophy as the Knife Forums HI forum. As you can see the forum has been and is still pretty popular. Because of my very firm belief in free speech and expression I allowed some posts which most would have banned. There were trying times when politics, religion, customs, entered into the discussion, especially if driven by zealots and fanatics and we had a few. But we survived and the forum became a place where anybody could say just about anything and it remains that way today to a high degree.

I wanted the forum to be not just a place to discuss khukuris and blades in general but a place where somebody in trouble could come, state his trouble and ask for help in the form of prayer or even money. I wanted it to be a place where help and advice could be solicited. I wanted it to be a place where ideas, philosophies, could be discussed. However, I wanted it to be a place motivated by the first rule, "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." I never wanted to see hate or loathing as part of the discussion or posts made simply to stir up contentions and discontent.

And here is the secret to making a decent, meaningful post: No matter what subject you might be posting about if you do so with the basic rules in mind, "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself" and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" you'll end up with a good, meaningful post that will probably be of some kind of benefit to all. Check your motives before making your post. As my old guru used to advise me, "if you can't do it with love don't do it at all."

If we follow the rules this can be a fine and worthwhile place so let's all give it the old college try.


Last edited by Bill Martino : 07-05-2004 at 01:54 PM.

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I try to live by the "golden" one. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. pretty simple. If you want to be treated with respect then please be respectful. Just my opinion.
 
i once heard an argument against the golden rule. if some slob saw a gorgeous woman on the street and wanted her to grab him and kiss him the golden rule would say that he should go grab her and kiss her. was it confucius who came up with the "don't do unto others what you would not have them do to you" or am i confused? silver rule, is it?

anyway, no problems with the rules personally, just thought i'd throw that one out there. i think it's stupid because anyone smart enough to come up with a legitimate argument against the golden rule is also smart enough to know the spirit in which it was formulated and is pretty much just bein an antagonist for the sake of being the antagonist.

the rules are simple enough. i don't even want to call em 'rules' since they'll do ya good on and off the forum.

just so i'm clear, politics are okay in the cantina?
 
Yup...in a gentlemanly or ladylike manner.

Thank you for asking.
 
Hey Nasty, am I correct in assuming that I can still post pics of my new knives, guns, or other toys as long as I'm not doing reviews or bashing stuff?

Thanks in advance,

Heber
 
Magnum22 said:
i once heard an argument against the golden rule. if some slob saw a gorgeous woman on the street and wanted her to grab him and kiss him the golden rule would say that he should go grab her and kiss her. was it confucius who came up with the "don't do unto others what you would not have them do to you" or am i confused? silver rule, is it?

Not really a good argument. Just because I am suicidal and would like people to kill me doesnt mean that it would be ok to do it to others. Get my point?

You have to apply common sense to the golden rule, as well as a general understanding of what the majority would think.

Keno
 
You have to apply common sense to the golden rule, as well as a general understanding of what the majority would think.

Keno

He did. Read his next paragraph. :D

Magnum22 said:
i think it's stupid because anyone smart enough to come up with a legitimate argument against the golden rule is also smart enough to know the spirit in which it was formulated and is pretty much just bein an antagonist for the sake of being the antagonist.
 
Yes Heber...all sorts of things can be discussed in an appropriate way.
 
sounds good to me. thanks for clearing the air, Nasty.

Politics, religion, movies, philosophies, customs, etc...all fair game...as long as:

Bill Martino said:
I never wanted to see hate or loathing as part of the discussion or posts made simply to stir up contentions and discontent.

This fits right in with what the Cantina should be.

Again: "Posts made simply to stir up contentions and discontent."

I think that pretty much describes any major problems we've had in the past. And fortunately, we've been able to learn from them and move on.
 
Yes Dan...and had I known of Bill's post, I'd have simply copied and pasted it myself.

I didn't...but am stumbling alongside the same path he was clearly on.
 
Thanks for the opportunity to post on this Nasty. :thumbup: The rules seem pretty straightforward to me.

(Hey! I guess spamming people with insults is _really_ out then, huh? There go my next 4 posts... ;) :D )

Norm
 
Bill was great. A Buddhist quoting the Christian Bible.
And he made it work.

--Mike L.

PS: I am not trying to start a religious discussion ;)
 
Uwinv there has been a long understanding now that no reviews of other manufacturer's goods are to be posted here.
If I have a particular knife of another brand besides HI's that I like really well am I allowed to tell about its virtues and/or any drawbacks it might have along with them?
Since we're discussing the rules I just wanted some clarification on this subject.
IIRC such posts used too make up a good bit of the discussion here but it's been a while and you know how my memory is.:o
 
Edutsi...known Cantina members talking about their stuff without links to websites is not at issue.

It only becomes an issue when individuals shill products in thinly disguised spam. We have had cases of "users" waltzing in, dumping a load of spam and leaving, but we have also had users (I hesitate to call them Cantina members) who have taken advantage of special deals from dealers in exchange for product endorsement. It's a fine line for some.

As in everything in life...it's a personal judgment call.
 
Freebie kukris? good deals? just pay the shipping? Bout time people offered me a few deals like that I reckon! :D :D :D

Spiral
 
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