Opening Champagne

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In anitcipation of the dreaded Y2K, I was wondering how you open a bottle of champagne with a saber. Of course, I am unlucky enough to not own a saber, but I do have several large knives! Will these work?

Interestingly, while searching around on the internet for information about this topic, I found that people make sabers specifically for the purpose of opening champagne! Here is one place that has some advertised... http://www.bacchus-wine-storage.net/sabre2.html

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Cerulean
Denver, CO


 
Ah, well, that's an interesting tradition. However, if you intend to actually drink any of the bubbly, I suggest that you do not break the bottle.

The proper way to open a bottle of sparkling wine is to firmly grasp the cork in one hand, and use the other hand to rotate and pull the bottle away.

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I do not drink champagne, on account of my religion. So I can open the bottle however I want. For sheer entertainment value, I prefer a shotgun.

Happy New Year in Advance,
David Rock

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Stop when you get to bone.
 
There's a restaurant here in Portland where they will, on request, open the bubbly with a sabor. But, they then insist on serving through a strainer. I am told that it takes considerable practice to get it right.

Years ago, due to a ticketing mishap, I was promoted to first-class. The aircraft was a 757 and we were leaving from the San Jose, California airport. This was before they remodeled that airport and they did not yet have those enclosed jet walks since it rarely rains there. So, they had brought up three stairs and were boarding this rather large plane through three doors with we first-class passengers boarding through the exclusive front door. As I boarded, there was a flight attendant standing at the door to greet the passengers. I found me seat in row three on the isle and started to settle in. There was a second attendant in the galley across from the door getting our breakfast ready. I watched as the second attendant stepped out of the galley and opened a small compartment aside the coat closet. She withdrew something wrapped in a towel and returned to the galley. A few seconds later, a gun shot rang out from the galley and the first flight attendant who had been standing in the door screamed and fell out the door down on to the stairs. I took cover.

A moment later, the second attendant rushed out of the galley carrying not a smoking gun, but a gushing bottle of champagne. The cork had exploded out of the bottle with such force that it had struck the other attendant and knocked her down.

Unfortunately, the first attendant was seriously injured in the fall. The rest of the attendants and the flight crew just stood around. Nobody knew what to do. Fortuntely, the airport emergency crew arrived momentarily and took over. I asked on of the other attendants why nobody knew what to do. He explained that federal law only requires one first aide trained crew member. Guess which one it was?

Fortunately, we received a radio message in flight that the captain passed on saying that our downed crew member had not broken any bones but had suffered only a sever sprain and some nasty bruises and would recover quickly.

I relate this incident to underscore the importance of being careful when opening champagne. I recommend putting a towel over the cork. If it does explode out as that one did, the weight of the towel should keep it from going to far.

As Mr. Ewok pointed out, the proper procedure is more a matter of removing the bottle from the cork than the cork from the bottle. If the dom is properly chilled and you use the correct procedure, there will be no explosion and no gushing, just a wonderful pop that hearlds the opening.

BTW, while blade enthusiasts might find the sabor colorful, women, on the other hand, really go for guys who can confidently and correctly open a bottle of champagne.

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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing! http://www.4cs.net/~gollnick


[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 06 December 1999).]
 
Not to state the obvious, but the reason champagne is able to be uncorked this way and not wine is any stray glass fragments will be forced away from the bottle due to the carbonation.

Even though the afore mentioned restaurant chooses to strain the bubbly (gasp!), I've never heard of a glass swallowing incident with this procedure!

-Michael

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I've been working in restaurants and bars for nearly ten yearsnow, and it never ceases to amaze me how many *waiters* cannot open a bottle of champagne properly or are aware of the dangers involved.

I've never opened a bottle with a sword but if your heart is set on it, the best way would be as follows.

First, the sword shouldn't be too sharp, or you could just end up shaving the stopper. Its amazing that with all that pressure behind them they can still be a bitch to get out. Secondly, the chapmagne should be properly chilled. This'll prevent any surprises when you take the wire off. When opening properly you *never* let go of the cork once the wire is loosened. Next, the actual opening. start with the sword in your scabbard or in the hands of an assistant, remove the foil from the stopper. With your thumb on top of the cork loosen the wire so that when you remove it, it won't interfere with the cork. Pointing the cork in a safe direction (ie. no people or glass), lift the wire over the end of the bottle. Form now on you can think of the bottle as a loaded firearm with the safety off (and a hair trigger). Draw your sword, or have it passed to you. The bottle is now in your weak hand, thumb in the dimple at the bottom, four fingers splayed along the body of the bottle, label up (for extra points). This gives you fairly good control of the bottle while keeping your hands clear of the neck. Start the sword (part of the blade near the hilt) about four inches from the mouth of the bottle and from above. Run the spine along the glass and keep the edge up ever so slightly, to clear the lip just behind the cork. Use a smooth motion, not too much force, and follow through. The jolting will probably cause a little bit of foaming, but if you're smooth, you shouldn't waste too much drink. Without changing your grip on the bottle pour the champagne slowly into your waiting glasses. I wouldn't worry about shards of glass as there will be none in the bottle and you can use a cloth to wipe the mouth of the bottle as a precaution if you like, just be careful not to push any chips into the bottle when you do this.

It would probably pay to practice this all beforehand on a couple of bottles of cheap sparkling wine, and at least one bottle of the chapmagne you'll be using, as they have different opening characterisics, just like tactical folders
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Happy New Year!

Dom
 
PS. Re: whether it would work with knives, I seem to remember that Jeff Imada did this with a Balisong once.
 
Check out www.netsword.com and www.swordforum.com where the question was discussed in some detail a while ago. My preference is to pull the cork slowly, the bubbly is to precious to waste and my Scots blood booils at the thought.

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Hugh Fuller
Arlington, Virginia

 
Hmm, weird. I still don't know how you do it; there doesn't seem to be a consensus on whether or not the neck of the bottle should break. In addition, the two times I've seen it performed, the bottle was standing on a table, rather than being held as Little Claw describes it.

Little Claw, I trust that your description is accurate, but it's not clear to me in your description if the glass should actually break off or if you just want to hit the cork. I'm assuming that the correct method is to just sort of flip the cork out of the bottle without breaking the top of the neck off.

By the way, here's a Net Sword link ... http://netsword.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000198.html

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Cerulean
Denver, CO


 
My understanding of the posts in SFMO and in NetSword was that you were supposed to slide the blade of a dull saber sharply up the bottle until it hit the edge of the rim. The rap on the rim is supposed to cause itr to break off. It was noteed in the SFMO article that the German company whose catalogue triggered my initial question stated that the "Champagne Sabel" was not available in the US and we assumed the reason was legal liability.

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Hugh Fuller
Arlington, Virginia

 
In my humble surroundings we twist off the caps off our "bubbly".

I watched a program on TV where they showed swording open champagne in some detail. They were definitely breaking off the neck of the bottle in the process. As I recall they slid the blade along the bottle until they hit the rim at the neck. They did several instant replays on the show.
 
As I have seen it done, the bottle is freestanding on the the table and the glass certainly is broken.

Personally, I am to much the fan of the Dom to open it in such a brutal way.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.4cs.net/~gollnick
 
Well, my '85 D.P. certainly ain't gonna get wacked with any sword, but talking about this has really got me curious. I may give it a shot on a cheap bottle and see what happens.

If the bottle explodes, sending shards of glass into my eyes and face, I will promptly sue BladeForums as well as everyone who posted here. I will then sue everyone in France for creating such a dangerous tradition. Then, once I blow all the money I win from the lawsuits, I'll sue me to get the money back!

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Cerulean
Denver, CO


 
Play such games with bottles of cold duck or Andre, and open good stuff correctly so that you don't waste it. Although I'm not that old I've been drinking champagne (I guess I'm a snob as I consider champagne to be French and the others are sparkling wines or cavas no matter how good they are) since the Moet white star or Mumms very dry was less than $10 a bottle. I prefer to open by twisting the cork out so that I can let the gases release very slowly, by using a fair amount of force to keep the cork from popping out and letting the bottle equilibrate slowly. One of the main reasons for doing so is that I don't like it cold, cool is ok, as it kills too much of the taste and if you aren't careful you'll loose half of a bottle with the typical 'pop the cork' opening.
 
Gentle-persons, you are missing the point of the excercise. Boozey Swashbuckling is not far from the truth. To Wit:

Though an avid artilleryman, *The Emporer* held his cavalry in high esteem. Before a battle, The Emporer would gather them together, do a pep-talk, sabre off some champange to toast of victory, then procede to kick butt!

It was not to impress the ladies, or the men, but to hype their spirits and send them off in high spirits.

Na Zhandrovne, Pouzhalouste!
Brian

[This message has been edited by Schlager (edited 08 December 1999).]
 
I should stress that I've never done it this way before!

I've seen it a couple of times on TV and my description was an educated guess based on that and my experience with opening untold bottles of bubbly over the years. I've never seen the neck cut off/broken before and I wouldn't recommend doing it that way. However, I hadn't considered that the bump at the lip of the bottle might get sheared off, which is not a big worry.

Truth is, there are probably as many ways of opening Champagne as there are things to be celebrated with it and as far as I'm concerned, the most important thing about it is that creamy, dry fizzz of the first icy sip.... :P
Gollnick:

"I am to much the fan of the Dom..."

Why (blush) its nice to be admired, but I've never been called *the* Dom...I'm sure there are others
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More of a Christal man myself...


Dom

[This message has been edited by Little claw (edited 08 December 1999).]
 
I've seen this done only once on an episode of Emeril Live. Spencer Christian, one of the big three network news services, is also a wine guru. Anyway, Spencer was a guest of Emeril, and at the end of the show he Sabred off bottle.

I recorded and analyzed the technique, and it definatly hit under the bottle lip, breaking the bottle.

Sidenote: Julia Child, Sabred off a bottle as part of an induction cerimony to some French cooking Society. -Brian
 
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