Order during forging

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Im just starting out to foring knifes i know that you need to aneal it, grind it, forge it to a rough profile, then quench, then temper what i dont know is the order your suppose to do them. And of you need to preheat 5160 and normalize it and if so how do you do that.

Thanks
 
I think this belongs in a different section but from what I know from many YouTube videos

#1 shape the knife (whether be forge and hammer or cutting/grind blanks)
#2 heat treatment
#3 handles & sharpening

Depending on the steel you might have some extra steps within the steps
To answer more people probably want to know more about your process and/or equipment
 
Hey D Duke Thatcher , here's a very general order of operations...
Forging
Normalizing
Annealing(not mandatory, but helps with ease of machining)
Grinding (including all machining steps, drilling holes etc)
Thermal cycle/grain refinement steps
Harden
Temper
Finish work

This is very general and some people do different steps at different times, like annealing again right before hardening, or reaming out holes to final dementions during finishing etc...
 
Hey D Duke Thatcher , here's a very general order of operations...
Forging
Normalizing
Annealing(not mandatory, but helps with ease of machining)
Grinding (including all machining steps, drilling holes etc)
Thermal cycle/grain refinement steps
Harden
Temper
Finish work

This is very general and some people do different steps at different times, like annealing again right before hardening, or reaming out holes to final dementions during finishing etc...
How do you thermocycle
 
How do you thermocycle
Well the way I do it and the way that is most effective are probably not the same.

I heat till just past non-magnetic in the forge, then air cool to black. I do this 3 times.

A better way to do it would be heading to a temperature specific to the steel you are using, in a more controlled way, like in an oven.

If I were selling, or doing this whole thing in a more serious way, i'd either invest heavily in the best, most accurate HT I could, and get a reliable testing setup to make sure I was getting the most out of the steel I am using.
 
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