OT- At The Top Of The Page

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When I and two of my sons visited Yangdu and Bill Martino this summer I got to use his computer. I had a opportunity to write something shocking and sign his name but wisely did not attempt that. I still recall there was some shock and negative reaction to my thread about things Bill would say on this forum if he wasn't quite as nice a guy...

Anyway, I wrote a few posts with his moniker and no one responded to my, 'guess who this is?"

That's strange, I thought. This has to be a super fast machine. Bill is a moderator. They probably get the cream of the electronic impulses in their high postions.... I Waited 10 minutes.

"Bill, there's not a single response to my thread."
"Hit the refresh button."
"The refresh button. What's that?"

"At the top of the page. See the little sign?"
I looked at the top of the page. I didn't remember seeing it before, though I recalled them vaguely. Must be 20 little symbols there. I saw the printer, and mail.
"No, which one; where is it?"
"That one; right there, next to the little house." Kind of like a Monopoly game peice the way he gently explained it. I liked that. Bill is as kind in person as he is on screen.
"I don't see it."

Here is Bill convalescing in his big spread-out chair. He's nearly reclining. I don't remember if he doglegged up on elbows and knees or actually had to get UP OUT OF THE GAD DURNED CHAIR, but he physically put his finger on the symbol on the computer screen in front of my eyes
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"Ohhh. That one." I pressed it. The screen quivered a little, and sure enough, when it cleared some posts were visible in my thread. That was neat.
I pressed it six or seven more times while I was there.

Great button. Still don't know all the other buttons, and I've been on the net for 4 years now. One day I may even post a link or show a picture. That's black science to me now though.

There is a VCR/DVD machine in its box next to our TV. Our old VCR died, and chewed up three tapes on its way down. The new box just sits there. Two months. I'm afraid to hook it up. I don't want to. I just don't want to do these things anymore.

I like to remind myself, and my friends, that I am occasionally smart, and often very very stupid. And if not kinda slow, at least fogged.

One day perhaps I'll be really dead. Just a glint of life in the eyes before the Black Tide sweeps in again. You'll find me in old age on my knees with a karda, cutting the back strap off a road killed racoon, eating the meat raw and growling.

But I sure do like that refresh button, yes sir. Guy who thought that up had something on the ball.

And I'll keep pressing it. And pressing it. We all need a refresh button. God gave us each one, and we should use it, whether the computer is turned on or not.
Especially when its not.



munk
 
Sometimes I post stuff because I think I'm being extremely clever. Same thing... people read it and don't respond. When I look at the views column the count is increasing but no responses. Kind of humbling in a sense. Or maybe the stuff I'm posting is too highbrow. :rolleyes: ;) :D
 
Munk?

It's not your fault.

Some of us have a genetic impairment.

I moved out of Illinois one month before the State Legislature passed a bill making it illegal for me to use tools.

The rest of these guys just don't understand. I can look at wiring diagrams like a teen-age boy with his first PLAYBOY, and nothing---absolutely NOTHING--stays in my brain.


btw. nice insight on refresh button for humans.



Kis
 
Well I knew about it ( the reload/refresh icon ) all along - but I haven't "got" the DVD player to work yet. I just don't understand Geek!

( Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Latin I stand at least a chance of puzzling out if I'm really motivated. )

Oh well, at least the VCR's on the livingroom and computer room TV's still work.

PS: One day someone will show me how to turn the sound on on my computer.
 
munk - I understand what you wrote. Nicely done.
 
munk said:
"The refresh button. What's that?"

"At the top of the page. See the little sign?"

"That one; right there, next to the little house."

munk
Uuuuhhh Munk, the refresh button doesn't have to remain next to the little house.:rolleyes: :D ;) You can move all of those symbols to where ever you want them in the lineup at the top of the page if you want to. I moved all of my symbols to where they're most convenient too me.
My refresh button is over to the far right, kinda where I lean in politics,;) for ease of use.:D YMMV.:p ;)
 
Yvsa, you're an old ndn who knows more about computers than this middle class white boy. I moved the bar of buttons several times in my life. The results were a little frightening to me.

As you know, my trusted friend, this thread really isn't about the button or DVD installation, because those are specifics which can be dealt with. The thread is about my relationship to the world of events and people and machines, a relationship for which I am at times utterly unsuited and incompetant. So we can fix a button- but there will always be another button. The thread is also about kindness of friends and strangers. Bill getting out of his chair to point out the button when he could barely stand. This is a debt I cannot repay- the love and attention of the universe for myself. I will always cherish my voice of simplicity, foolishness, and wisdom, making the epic struggle funny and wise. (I hope) When this happens, I push the renew button. I can only hope many of you feel the same- the best writing renews us all.

If this isn't any good, these threads of mine- then I am only the person who did not understand his DVD player.
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Sometimes when I write like this, my friends weigh in to fix munk. I don't really want to be fixed- I can't be 'fixed', but only loved.

Now that I've lettered this out, the old adage comes to mind- if you have to explain it the joke wasn't funny; if you have to explain it the story (thread) wasn't very good.

That's OK too. I'll just keep trying. The worse thing that can happen is someone will show me how to install a DVD player.

munk
 
Law of Universe- every fresh crop with their go-fast energy should shoulder the crap.


munk
 
Munk, if you go back and re-read my post you will notice the not only is my DVD not hooked up, my computer doesn't make sounds.

The kindness of friends and strangers is the only thing that keeps some of us trying.
 
I noticed it all right. But you do so many things well, my friend.
And also- you hedged your bet a little by throwing in you knew some latin and other languages. I can just see this, "I burned the frozen pizza," you tell your house guests, "but at least I know latin."

I've never used a happy face, and if I knew how- I'd put one in about now.
Your kindness to all of us is not forgotten either. A mainstay here and a foundation for all of us to rely upon and branch out. I've never seen a moderator like you.



munk
 
Munk, I didn't say I knew latin or any other exotic language. I just know that if I really needed to I could stand a chance of puzzling them out. Geek, forget it.

To many charity, or taking charity, is often seen as an act of humiliation. Giving it is like paying mendicants to go away and quit bothering us. You are made to feel like my social work books called it, part of " the unworthy poor ".

Charity as I see it is like the phrase I've oft quoted, "Ubi Caritas Et Amor, Deus Ibi Est". Where there is caring and love, there also is God. Kindness, plain and simple. It's given Joyfully, and without condescention. I can't give of me unless someone does me the favor of being willing to accept. Then I benefit by helping or imparting insight to others. It's like an older brother giving you a hand with something.

Like the old saying, "Wisdom comes from Experience, and most of Experience comes from doing things that are Unwise".

Something like that. Love, Caring, Friendship. A willingness to be open to each other. A sharing rather than one giving and one taking.
 
Where there is caring and love, there also is God.

Yes! You could say that is why many of us are here. We love pretty/sturdy/sharp things, but in a sense, we're really here because god is here. UB has fostered that atmosphere, and we have gravitated towards it.

John, colon, parenthesis :)
 
BTW munk, you just type one of these : immediately followed by one of these )

;)

edited to add: LOL...too early in the morning for me John...I read that as Luke 14:4 as if you had a new sig rather than showing munk how a smiley is done. It's wonderful to start the day with a good laugh at yourself. Thank you!
 
Rusty, speaking of Geek; I got up this AM ready to continue on my book. I had my coffee, listened to George Bush's speech, got the kids settled and the first round of their bout decided, sat down at my computer and WA LAAA!! "Just click this box for Windows XP updates. While they update, you can continue to piddle about on your machine as you wish."

OK, I thought. I don't trust them, but I'll do it. I owe them an update, ignoring most of them until forced. I hit the button. Then a window below said, "Hiddee Howdie HI! Just click on me to see what progress the update is making!!!"

OK, I'll click on you, and did. A box now appears telling me to click again to initiate installation. I did this. Now the advise arrives: "PLEASE WAIT WHILE INSTALLATION IS IN PROGRESS."

I waited, and waited for the installation to finish. No luck. I was afraid to work on any file for fear it might be injured during the process. REmember, these are the same guys who told me two opposing things; 1. installation has begun and do what you like, and two, NOW installation has begun and please wait.

If I hadn't clicked to see my 'progress' the process would not even have begun!!!!

So what do I think of Bill Gates?


I'm annoyed and the process is finally through. It is now 10:00 and I've wasted the precious morning time, when most of my work gets done.

I don't believe them or like them. Once Geeks perfect space travel, we should board the ships they've built, with them assembled at Mission Control, and nuke the planet from orbit.


munk
 
Munk if you have the "My Computer" icon on your desk top go to it and right click and when the box comes up click on "Automatic Updates." Then you can click on the way you want Windows to load, "Automatic Updates" recommended by them and then you can set a time when you aren't likely to be on your computer to automatically download the updates. If the "My Computer" icon isn't on your desk top then click start, then My Computer and go from there to do the same thing. I used to have mine notify me when an update was available but put it on automatic when the SP2 was due to come out. The new setting saves a lot of time as well as hassle.:D

To customize your toolbar go to View at the top of the page and click on it. Then move your pointer to "Toolbars" slide it down to "Customize" and click on that. That will bring up a box that you can move the icons around in as well as add or take away spacers and icons. For me it's a lot easier to slide my pointer up the right side of the page to the "Refresh" button than all the way up and across the page. I have it isolated with several spacers so that it's also easier to find.:D

Rusty to check and see if your sound is turned on go to "Start," click on it and then go to "Control Panel" and click on that.
When it comes up go to the icon that says "Sounds and Audio Devices." Double click on it to open the box. If the "Volume" tab doesn't show then click on the "Volume" tab at the top of the box. Place a check in the box that says, "Show icon in taskbar" You can also adjust the volume with a sliding scale on the box page. When done click "Okay" and then get out of the control panel.
You should have a little speaker in your task bar now. Go to the speaker icon and click on it once. That will bring up a small box that has a check box that says "Mute." Clicking on it will mute your system so no sound gets by. There's also a sliding scale there so that you can adjust the volume as well.
However If there is already a speaker icon in your task bar the volume may just be turned down so low you can't hear it or the Mute box is checked. And if the speaker icon is in your task bar you can ignore all of the above.:D :rolleyes: ;)
If that doesn't work let me know by email and I'll see if I can figure something else out.
Most of the settings on my computer that pertain to issues like these are just things I've figured out on my own by experimenting. A good friend told me once not to be scared of a computer and I took his advice, However I am still extremely leery of the dayumed things!:rolleyes: :p :D ;)
 
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