OT: Dave's Calling it Quits - Time to be a Civilian Again

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Yes, that's right...I'm leaving the Navy on 07 November of this year. I will have been in for nearly ten years.

Truth be told, I'm very nervous. I've spent nearly a third of my life (and most of my adult life) at this game and I know little else. I've sat on that fence for years: do I stay or do I go? Unable to decide, I always stayed. Last time I'd pretty much made up my mind to go and had been told to stay. This time around it's my choice and I feel that staying would not be in my best interests. I finally made up my mind. I will go. I suppose that some folks will be glad that I'm gone and others will be sorry that I'm leaving. Oscar the Attack Cat couldn't be bothered either way.

Once my mind was made up I felt as if an enormous burden had been lifted from my back. I realized, right then and there, how much I'd disliked my way of life and how badly I'd wanted to get away from it. I just hadn't known how to do so. In the words of Jimmy Buffet, I'm the son of a son of a sailor (and a brother to one as well)...what else was there in my life? What else could there be? It was a difficult decision but I'm very glad that I made it.

I'm concerned. My safety net will be gone soon and Uncle Sam will no longer be around to catch me when I stumble. Folks who haven't served think that this job is a hard thing. It's not. It's the easiest job in the world, for there's nothing to worry about, ever. Everything will be handled for you if you merely ask and some things, even if you don't. (Just try not to get maimed or killed.) Until I made my decision I lived my life in the knowledge that if I came home from work one day and my home had burned to the ground, my car was gone, and all of my personal possessions were ashes, there would be no worries. Uncle Sam would put me up in the barracks. I'd be fed and clothed. I could save my money and buy all that stuff again. That's gone now, or will be, soon.

At the same time I'm elated. I've been someone else's man for my entire life. It's time to be my own man, as much as I can be, anyway. The thought of real freedom, and uncertainty, thrills me. Hopefully it will make the Top Ramon taste better if things don't turn out. ;)

I have a lot of leave built up. (I don't take as much time off as I should.) There'll be plenty of terminal leave for me. I have plans to travel the country a bit. I've spent too much time seeing other countries. It's time to see a bit of this one. Then it's time to get back to work, most likely (once again) as someone else's man. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I broke the news to my family. My mother was thrilled. It did not go so well with my father and while I've been very forgiving in the past, it won't be easy to let this slide. I think of all the work that I've done in the last decade to bring us together and I realize that I've undone it - or, more specifically, he has. It's been my hope for a long time that we'd truly be father and son before one of us died and I'm no longer convinced that this is possible now. You can imagine how I feel about that. I'm not in the best of moods. I think that this may be an impossible task. I didn't think it before but I do now.

My first thought after that phone call was to accept my terminal leave and paperwork and all that other garbage and simply drink myself to death. Then I realized, at that moment, that without my limp I might not need my crutches anymore. The limp will be gone soon. I figure it's time to prepare myself to set the crutches aside for the last time. I won't know how hard it will be but it'll certainly be easier than the last time, and I did it last time. I suppose that I'm not so exhausted that I can't do it again.

I also came to understand just what I'd been putting myself through in an effort to reconcile.

I'm done with that. I've washed my hands of it. If he's not willing to meet me halfway then we won't meet. I've already gone three quarters of the way. He knows where I am and he doesn't have to go far to get there. From here on out the ball is in his court.

"Where will you go?" a coworker asked me.
"Where the work is," I answered.
"What work?" they asked.
"Whatever someone's willing to pay me to do," I said. They hadn't been doing it for as long as I have. I don't think that they truly understood just what's involved. I'm very, very tired of being an implement. Every tool wears out if it gets used enough.

My own man, indeed, but at least I'll be able to come and go as I please. That's far better than what I have now. As hard as I am on my tools, there are times when I'm harder on myself. It's a wonder that I haven't broken anything yet.

I think there's more than one reason that I'm limping. I'll get rid of them all. It's time to start walking on my own again, very soon.

Things may or may not be more difficult but they will certainly be more complicated. I hate complicated things. Still, being 100% sure of something is a feeling that I wouldn't trade for the world. It has been a very, very long time since I've been totally convinced that I was doing the right thing, and it will be very pleasant to be able to refuse the next time that I'm ordered to do the wrong thing. Very pleasant, indeed.

Beer's on me tonight, gentlemen. (Or root beers, as preferred...I won't hold it against you.)
 
rep points for Dave (hypothetically speaking of course ;) ). Congratulations, good luck and thank you for all you've done the last ten years. Enjoy your R&R and have fun with civilian life. Being free again is one of the best feelings in the world. Don't forget to apply for unemployment! Uncle Sam isn't quite done taking care of you yet if you'll let him, and you've done far more to earn it than most. The second round is on me at the next Khonvention. :)
 
Good luck and God speed Dave. Hit the ground running, and be advised, the best is still ahead.

Sarge
 
Dave

Congrats

I came to the same conclusion only much later in my career 13 yrs 6 mths.
It was weird not wearing the uniform or having anyone always wanting something. It was great yet took some getting used too. When I finally got a job again who did I go to work for Uncle Sam as a civilian. Good luck and godspeed.

James
MA1 USNR

Go Navy
 
Best of luck on your career change Dave! :D
My 2nd Cuz just retired after 20 some years in the Navy with 14 years of sea duty. He's a lifer with a nice big sailing ship tattooed across his back with the words,
"Rocked In The Cradle Of The Deep." to the tune of about a $1000.00 worth of ink, says he only has about $750 in it but methinks that's because his momma was setting there listening to us.:rolleyes: ;)
Don't know if he picked a good career as he was sellin yachts in Pensacola until Katrina.

You'll do fine as business is always looking for people *not* afraid to work and service men, and women, aren't afraid of that for sure.
If you don't have any schoolin then get some, education is cheap no matter the cost and will always be in demand and no one can take it from you.:thumbup: :cool: :D

And thanks for the years out of your life!!!! :thumbup: :cool:
 
A wonderful post and new begining. You've had an interesting life and there's lots more coming.


munk
 
Dave, congratulations on the decision and the life change.

Soon you'll be enjoying the freedom you've helped preserve for all of us.

You're gonna love it.

BTW, you can do anything. Your pick.


Mike
Ad Astra :thumbup:

Hey! Wanna help build a dock & seawall? No exp. necessary, and can borrow boat afterwards. Great seafood here too. College chicks that dig military guys. Nice beaches. Best offer you got so far! Told ya, you can do anything!

also I have a tricked-out Baikal Drozd with silencer can and red-dot sight. Shoot it all you want......
 
Dave,

Congrats and good luck. I was in the AF for 13 years... I think it took me about three years before I started writing dates MM/DD/YY instead of the approved DD/MM/YY that the AF preferred :) .

It takes a while to do the transistion. It will take you time to find yourself too... re-establish your sense of self (apart from the military). It is a good journey to take. Heck, I've been out since '92 and I'm still on the journey (well, okay, not so good on my part I guess). But worth taking none the less.

Alan
 
Dave,

All the best to you. That was some honest and insightful talk.
 
Dude!
GI Bill, college for free.
Go to school, study hard science and engineering of some sort.
Coem to every khonvention.
Life will be sweet.
You can buy a house for cheap, all kinds of bonuses from military service...
 
I'm just a dumb college kid, but here's my 2 cents.

What'll you be doing after you get out? To be honest, I'd be very anxious if I didn't know where money's going to be coming from. I'm with Yvsa on the education thing, doesn't the military generally offer plans to pay for your education? I'd definately take them up on that. Or if that's not feasible, and this might sound horrible, but I'd stay in for a little longer and try to do something where the military trains me to learn some applicable trade skill for civilian life. You wouldn't want to have to barely scrape by with some minimum wage job.
 
Congratulations Dave...

I spent 17 1/2 years between the day they drafted me and when I finally told them no. Sure, I'm a contractor for them now, but now, they have to *ask* me instead of *ordering* me...and they pay for the privilege.

You've been to my house...so you should know there is life after Uncle Sugar for a man of character such as yourself.

As for your Dad...I had the same in my family. We weren't able to reconcile before he died, but it was *his* loss...not mine as I did get to the point you are at now. Some things are beyond a man and that's okay.

Remember that Ohio has a thriving economy...and you would be closer to a great Khonvention!
 
Congratulations Satori!

Not just on getting out, but on being completely in control of the decision to do so.

Dads can be tricky dudes. I have one too. I've reached out in similar fashion as it sounds like you have. Sometimes he's there, most times he's not... doesn't make sense to me, not how I would relate with my kid, but it is his decision not mine.

So, you make the best of it.

Regarding work, I just say don't undervalue yourself. I'm sure you have a ton of skills and talents that even you might not be overly aware of. The higher you aim your sights now, the further you'll land in the future...

best of luck to you. Keep a low profile until thanksgiving...

Bamboo
 
Congrats, Dave!

First of all, THANK YOU. Thank you for your service. Thank you for doing a job many are too afraid to do. I think I would have loved to be a millitary man..for awhile. But i know i would have grown tired like yourself. You're too young of a guy to be tired with life. Some people are lifers. Some people are not. We only get one whirl so we have to make the best of what we've got. Being your own man can be thrilling. I went to school, had a job handed to me, work for my family so as long as the business is around I'll always have work. It's nice to know that, but there is something missing. It's like a donut. Sure, it'll give you what you need and fill you up for awhile, but theres still a big hole in it.
The most rewarding and exciting time I've had in my short life was the two years of school where i was 100% on my own. My dad didn't want to pay for school because he wanted to strong arm me back to the business. I said to hell with it. If he wanted me back, he could wait. I didn't graduate(yet), but i got my 4 years in. Lean, lean two years, they were. Got by on $7,000 a school year working at Target and whatever i could save in the summer working my butt off in the heat and humidity for my dad. I got by. i was even able to buy a nice ring for my fiance'. I have never been so hungry and so broke in my life. i would NEVER trade that experience for anything. EVER. You'll be fine. you're going to have a great experience. A great life. You have skills. You have a good work history. You have a few dozen friends all over the country that would find some kind of work for you.
Walk your own path. See many faces. Laugh and love much. Cry a little bit to season the joy. You are free. Do whatever you want:)

Jake
 
Good for you !!!

Your old man must have some hurts in his own life that make it feel less painful for him to remain as he is, rather than to try to open up & change.

Pray for him, if that's reasonable to you, and leave the door open for him, in case the prodigal father has a change of heart. You can't change, & aren't responsible for, how anyone else thinks or feels; you've done your part.

But, in the meantime, you have enough of your own fish to fry (especially if you visit ad astra :D ).

Now, concentrate on managing your own life in a "brave new world" !
(As Steely Gunz pointed out, sometimes, some of our most difficult times become some of our best experiences & memories).

P.S. THANK YOU, SAILOR !
 
Great stuff Dave!

i have to join the crowd and say get yourself to college. actually we cdn's call it university but let's not split hairs.

the one great thing i got out of university? i met my wife there.
 
Hey! Don't be nervous. Er, uh, well; I guess a certain amount of nervousness to a new lifestyle and uncertain future is normal. But the folks who are civilians have known for a generation now that no job is permanent in today's workplace and change is a constant.

And besides all that, you're so darned competant you're going to do very well at whatever you decide to pursue, unless of course you embaress your boss with too much knowledge and attitude. !!!



munk
 
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