OT: GREAT old motor sickle pictures and the loons who rode them.

Did you see the kid with the cowboy hat watching in the one pic going over the hill? That was me...I learned to ride from these guys, well, ones just like them anyway. They had even less sense then than we do now...

I've done the mud and snow part...but I leave the jumping to others (on the Harleys anyway...used to have a Husqevarna that took all sorts of trashing).

Great old photos...thanks!
 
Absolutely wonderful thread......



This is an awesome bike:


50_74CI_Dad.jpg
 
Wasn't riding in the 1950s began in the 1960s.

"Trail" riding had progressed where the "Triumph 250 Cub" and a Harley 250cc were the kings. Then a man named Senor Bulto began building a superb 2 stroke bike called a Bultaco (as you can imagine the jokes).

http://www.britcycle.com/Bikes/Bultaco.htm

Well I got a 250cc Matador and began riding "Enduros." These were timed trail riding. While I was not that good, I had the enthusiasm and the desire.

Coupled with the cutting edge technology of the Bultaco Matador, I won. Very light, high ground clearance, carb intake was under the seat so as long as the water was not over the seat, you could traverse rivers with ease. Huge knobby tires, compared to the other bikes.

The Southeastern Sports Comittee set up the Enduro runs. These could span as much as 75 miles of mostly trails. There were short stretches of road, then another trail.

I also had a Vincent Black Shadow 1000cc road bike. Bought it in pieces from a guy who bought it that way and could not put it together. With the help of a few Brits, I got it running. Totally black. Except the exhaust pipes, wheel spokes (chrome) and the carbs (brass).

http://scalemodel.net/Vincent.aspx

One day I was at Al Rodi's Motorcycle Store on the Vincent. It was sometimes a biotch to start. The guys loved to count the number of kicks I had to give it. It usually started easily if i was alone, but the more people watching, the more kicks it took.

The dammned thing just would not start. I had to take a break. The laughter had died down and sympathy among my buddies kicked in.

Someone asked me about my "standing" in the Sports Committee? I did not know and at the time did not care. I only wanted to ride enduros. I entered ALL of them. Sometimes I won class or overall, sometimes not so good, but I did not keep track of accumulated points. I just loved riding.

The laughter died down and someone told me that I was in second place in the Southeast! My competitive spirit kicked in and I immedaitely said, "Who is in First Place? Who do I HAVE to beat?"

Warren Taylor! Hell I was 25 and that old fart was 36! And he rode a Triumph Cub! Well, up until then he was a friend. No longer. I had to beat him. We were evenly matched. He was very good. My bike was better, but he was a better rider.

So for the next several "races" I was an all-out competitor. He would win one, I would win the next one.

We did not even speak to each other anymore.

There were two runs left for the year. Warren was slightly ahead of me in points, I HAD to win this run. There was no longer any joy in riding, just all out blood and guts.

I rmember it clearly. It was a beautiful day in Greenville SC. I was climbing a steep hill, baseball sized rocks everywhere --- but my bike was misfiring. An all-out rage enveloped me. You know the feeling? I HAD TO WIN!

I found myself thinking, "I hope that Warren falls and hurts himself so bad that he cannot finish the run. That is the ONLY way I will WIN!"

Then a Zen like calm hit me. "THIS IS NO LONGER FUN! Warren was a close friend ONCE. WTF am I doing here?"

I shepherded the barking Bultaco to a dirt road and found my way back to the trailer and car. I loaded the bike and sold it with the trailer.

I found my friendship for Warren returning. I went to the next run as a spectator. It felt good cheering people on.

Many people wanted to know why I quit. I just told them that it wasn't fun anymore.

In the last race, Warren fell, hard and knocked his kneecap off. He was never able to ride competitively again. I felt very badly for him, but not as badly as I would have felt if I had been still competing and wishing that would happen.

So Warren won first place in the Southeast for 1967. I had so many points that I still won second place. And folks, that was good enough for me.
 
Daniel Koster said:
Absolutely wonderful thread......



This is an awesome bike:


50_74CI_Dad.jpg

.. and not a one of these guys had his Harley tied down on a trailer, towing it behind a pickup truck.
 
My kind of biking but I used something a bit lighter than a Harley to wrestle around. Great stuff and thanks.
 
I was this close click here to quitting my job, buying a bike, and taking off for Canada a couple of years ago.

What stopped me? A girl.

Where is she know? China.


:grumpy:

~ B
 
Bamboo said:
I was this close click here to quitting my job, buying a bike, and taking off for Canada a couple of years ago.

What stopped me? A girl.

Where is she know? China.


:grumpy:

~ B
You should have gone. I think even Canada has girls.. :D
 
Well I got a 250cc Matador and began riding "Enduros." These were timed trail riding. While I was not that good, I had the enthusiasm and the desire.


You were quite an athlete, then, Bill. The strength, coordination, reflexes, and vision for successful enduro riding--on ANY bike--is very demanding. You must have been excellent. Nice.

My only off-road riding was of the absurd category: early '60's rock quarry hill climbing with ...er...sigh...a 305 Honda DREAM. Jaysus, how did I survive myself? :D
 
Kis! *I* had a 305 Dream too! It was my first motorcycle in fact...I put velocity stacks on it and everything...red & white, flat saddle, tank pads...

One day as my buddy Chuck and I were running it up and down the street tuning it, an older neighbor came out front...we figured we were in for a butt chewing. Instead, he took us back to his garage and showed us buckets of parts...said that they had recently learned of his son's death in Viet Nam and that they wanted us to finish rebuilding it so they could have pictures (their son was a closed casket). Chuck and I jumped at the chance to work on such a cool project, so spent the next 8 or so months finding parts, fabricating, sanding and finally painting. We took the bike over and they took pictures of the bike, them with the bike, them and an 8x10 of their son with the bike and even of Chuck and I with the bike, then handed over the title. They didn't want it, just wanted to see his dream finished.

Oh...it was a '47 Indian Chief. Chuck and I decided that we were equal owners and so spent the following year sharing it. A point came that we needed independence, so sold the bike and each bought our own.

That Honda Dream launched so many miles and memories...
 
I remember these. Square headlight? Didn't have one, but did have a Yamaha (yo-ma-ma) Big Bear Scrambler.

There was also the superfast Kawasaki (Sack-a-hacki) 500cc tree cylinder. Pretty much as fast as the Vincent on the street.

Started on an 80cc Suzuki (anyone remember the song, "Solo Suzuki?"), you could rent one at a nearby gas station for $12/day.

It was too small. Bought a 175cc Bultaco Trail bike. Also too small. The 250cc Matador was perfect for the woods.

Then got the hots for Motorcross. Well Senor Bulto built a superb "Craw" (our name for Motorcross) bike. It was called a Pursang. Some kind of ungodly compression and ran like a "Scalded Ape."

Only had two speeds -- wide open and flooded. We figured that Senor Bulto named it Pursang because of the sound of it's two stroke engine as it reached the higher revs. PurrrrrrrrrrrrrSANG!

Truthfully riding "Craw" was just too scary! In 1968 I was at the advanced age of 25. I had fallen in the cross country many times but was never really hurt.

The "new" guys riding motorcross were about 16-18 years old. They had not experienced enough of life to realize real pain, so they rode like they were immortal.

--------- There are old motorcycle riders and there are bold motorcycle riders, but there are no old, bold motorcycle riders.

I rode in a few "Scrambles" (a hard dirt surface winding enclosed track). There is nothing like being a part of a group of racers roaring around a dirt track. The sound, (the fury), the heat, the smell of burning oil. It was like being part of some great growling beast.

It was fun, but not like trail riding and it was over too soon!

I did get another bike. Still have it. A bright yellow 360cc 1970 something, Rokon. It is apart in my garage awaiting a "winter project restoration when I don't have anything else to do." Been there for about 30 years. Maybe next year I'll put it together.

I love Hondas. Bulletproof bikes. Now have a Honda Shadow 1988 VLX 600. Got it new. Still runs great. 14,000 miles. Original chain. Only work ever done has been one clutch cable and a few batteries. Tune ups and oil changes.

The Japs took a look at a Harley Sportster with some customizing and built a copy. But it had the Honda relaibility.

The first Shadows looked great. Candy apple red (Wineberry) A 598cc engine put them in the "under 600cc" cheap insurance class. The engines were water-cooled, but they added uneeded cooling fins so the engine would look larger, looked sorta like a Harley. front disk brake and a rear tire the size of the State of Georgia. Didn't sell well.

So they did some market research. Hmm, looks like a Harley, sounds like a Harley (with stock mufflers), but what is missing? They found that the Honda engine ran too smooth, so the made it vibrate like a Harley.

http://motorcycles.about.com/library/fotos2/bl1084.htm Not mine, but looks just like it.

Then it sold. And guys, isn't that one of the reasons we ride? Doesn't a nice vibration do something to your female passenger?

I also had a Honda Hurricane 1000cc 1988 crotch rocket, but that is another story.

But maybe I'll get a Honda XLR or maybe they still make Bultaco Matadors . . . . . . excuse me, I am having a "moment." Gonna go search Google.
 
ld57 said:
.. and not a one of these guys had his Harley tied down on a trailer, towing it behind a pickup truck.
We call folks who pull a perfectly good Harley on a trailer......trailer trash. ;)
 
Honda Hurricane 1000cc - That was one scarey bike...not just the sheer power of it, been on more powerful lots of times...but it was "twitchy". I rode one once and there was (to me) no sense of trust to be found.
 
I co-signed for a stepson to buy a Honda 750XL and it was one of the few times I didn't get burned.:cool:
I had never ridden a bike enough to know how, but one day I got pissed at his mom and asked him for the keys.
I then rode it down the 1/4 of a block to where he was talking to some friends and told him I was going after a sixpak but didn't know how I would do since I had never ridden a bike like his before.:rolleyes:
I then took off like a ruptured duck down the street toward the main drag. The look on his face was priceless.:D
I rode the 5-6 blocks to the store, parked it out front where I wasn't s'possed to and went in for my beer. When I got off a young feller hollered, "Nice Bike!" I told him thanks and continued on my way.
I came out with the beer and thought, "Dod, oh Dod, what do I do now?" Well I had no choice, I put the sixpak in front of me, started the bike and headed for home.
Pulled up into the yard, killed the bike, threw Emmit the keys and said thanks and proceeded into the house where I opened a beer, rolled a doobie and proceeded to get stupid.:rolleyes: :D
I wouldn't be able to do it today, there wouldn't be room in front of me for the beer on such a little bike.:rolleyes: :grumpy:
I was really surprised, And Impressed, that the Honda ran Emmit as long as it did, hell as far as I know he may still have it. It was a good bike and from what I had heard there weren't too many of that model made, somewhat of a rarity I guess.

I also rode a Humongous old 40's model Indian around the block once. Had the shifter up on the side, easy to reach, but I never got it out of first gear. Every time I gave it a little gas the damned thing would start shakin and bellerin and spinnin the rear tire. Scared the livin shlt outta me.

Then there was the day when I was working close to Barb, we worked at the same shop, and she told me about her son getting killed on a cycle. I told her I didn't know what to say or how I would feel if that would ever happen to me.
A few short years later I got to find out. The highway patrolman came knocking at our door about 2-3 o'clock in the morning telling me that my son had been killed riding his 1,000 cc Kawasaki.:(
I'm glad that Barb was with me to help me through it as I did know then how she felt although I never did know what to say. There are no words when your child gets killed to express feelings.:(

Doesn't stop my love of bikes but y'all be careful out there on them things! :grumpy:
 
Nasty said:
Honda Hurricane 1000cc - That was one scarey bike...not just the sheer power of it, been on more powerful lots of times...but it was "twitchy". I rode one once and there was (to me) no sense of trust to be found.

You are right. "Twitchy" is a good word to describe it. I knew that someday it would kill me so I sold it. Zero to 60mph in 2.1 seconds. Had it to 150mph once. Started making a loud hum. Shut it down to 60mph and all was well.

But I do have a Hurricane story that almost made me keep it. Anyone who has ever ridden one of these "Road Rockets" or "Crotch Rockets" will know what I mean.

A close friend married a sweet young thing. Quiet and reserved she was. He wanted to take her for a ride on my Hurricane. I refused to let him ride it because the damn things are just plain dangerous.

He suggested that I take her for a ride. I agreed. We whomped it down this safe stretch of road, ran it up to about 110 and then back to speed limit. She held on tightly (they all do) and let out a little squeal (they all do this as well), but otherwise was quiet.

When we returned she dismounted and was walking kind of bow-legged. He asked her how she liked the ride and why the strange walk?

Her quiet reply made me decide to keep that bike a while longer. She said, "I either wet my pants or came, I don't know which. Maybe both."

Hurricanes are like that. If you have ridden one, you know what I mean.
 
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