OT? Heroism and blade vs gun

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Salvadoran army cited for heroism in Iraq
By Denis D. Gray, Associated Press Writer | May 3, 2004

NAJAF, Iraq --One of his friends was dead, 12 others lay wounded and the four soldiers still left standing were surrounded and out of ammunition. So Salvadoran Cpl. Samuel Toloza said a prayer, whipped out his switchblade knife and charged the Iraqi gunmen.

In one of the only known instances of hand-to-hand combat in the Iraq conflict, Toloza stabbed several attackers who were swarming around a comrade. The stunned assailants backed away momentarily, just as a relief column came to their rescue.

"We never considered surrender. I was trained to fight until the end," said the 25-year-old Toloza, one of 380 El Salvador soldiers whose heroism is being cited just as criticism is leveled against other members of the multinational force in Iraq.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said recently the Central American unit has "gained a fantastic reputation among the coalition" and expressed hope that they will stay beyond their scheduled departure.

Phil Kosnett, who heads the Coalition Provisional Authority in this holy Shiite city, says he owes his life to Salvadorans who repelled a well-executed insurgent attack on his three-car convoy in March. He's nominated six of them for the U.S. Army's Bronze Star medal.

"You hear this snotty phrase `coalition of the billing' for some of the smaller contingents," says Kosnett, referring to the apparent eagerness of some nations to charge their Iraq operations to Washington. "The El Sals? No way. These guys are punching way above their weight. They're probably the bravest and most professional troops I've ever worked with."

The Salvadorans are eager to stress their role as peacekeepers rather than warriors, perhaps with an eye to public opinion back home. Masked protesters last week seized the cathedral in the capital of San Salvador, demanding that President-elect Tony Saca pull the troops out of Iraq.

Saca, who takes office June 1, has said he will leave the unit in Iraq until August as planned, despite the early departure of the Spanish troops under which they were serving. The other three Central American contingents -- from the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras -- have already returned home or are scheduled to do so soon.

"We didn't come here to fire a single shot. Our rifles were just part of our equipment and uniforms. But we were prepared to repel an attack," says Col. Hugo Omar Orellana Calidonio, a 27-year army veteran who commands the Cuscatlan Battalion.

The troops, El Salvador's first peacekeepers abroad, conducted a wide range of humanitarian missions in Najaf. They provided books, electricity, playground equipment and other supplies to destitute schools and helped farmers with irrigation works and fertilizer supplies.

"Our country came out of a similar situation as in Iraq 12 years ago, so people in El Salvador can understand what is happening here," said Calidonio, referring to a civil war between the U.S.-backed government and leftist guerrillas that left some 75,000 dead. The military was held responsible for widespread abuses.

"We came here to help and we were helping. Our relationship with the people was excellent. They were happy with what we were doing," Calidonio says.

Then came April 4, when armed followers of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr seized virtual control of the city and staged attacks on two camps -- Baker and Golf -- adjacent bases on the fringes of Najaf occupied by the Salvadoran and Spanish units.

When Toloza and 16 other soldiers arrived that morning at a low-walled compound of the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, about 1.2 miles from their camp, they found its 350 occupants had melted away and themselves trapped by al-Sadr's al-Mahdi militia.

Lt. Col. Francisco Flores, the battalion's operations officer, said the surrounded soldiers held their fire for nearly half an hour, fearful of inflicting civilian casualties, even as 10 of their number were wounded by rocket-propelled grenades and bullets from assault rifles and machine guns.

After several hours of combat, the besieged unit ran out of ammunition, having come with only 300 rounds for each of their M-16 rifles. Pvt. Natividad Mendez, Toloza's friend for three years, lay dead, riddled by two bullets probably fired by a sniper. Two more were wounded as the close-quarters fighting intensified.

"I thought, `This is the end.' But at the same time I asked the Lord to protect and save me," Toloza recalled.

The wounded were placed on a truck while Toloza and the three other soldiers moved on the ground, trying to make their way back to the base. They were soon confronted with al-Sadr's fighters, about 10 of whom tried to seize one of the soldiers.

"My immediate reaction was that I had to defend my friend, and the only thing I had in my hands was a knife," Toloza said.

As reinforcements arrived to save Toloza's unit, the two camps were under attack, with the El Salvadorans and a small U.S. contingent of soldiers and civilian security personnel trying to protect the perimeter and retake an adjoining seven-story hospital captured by the insurgents.

The Spanish didn't fight, and only after a long delay agreed to send out their armored vehicles to help evacuate the wounded. Flores says he cannot question the Spanish decisions that day, but with a slightly sardonic smile adds that they "could have helped us sooner."

U.S. troops have now replaced the Spanish. Salvadoran officers, many of whom were trained at military schools in the United States, say they're pleased to be working with the Americans.
 
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It's always about the user. Yeah, there are "better" and "worse" tools, sometimes, but the spirit is the most important part of the battle.

John
 
Spectre said:
It's always about the user. Yeah, there are "better" and "worse" tools, sometimes, but the spirit is the most important part of the battle.

John
I agree 100%. One's mindset (attitude) is most critical.
 
Right on! The deadliest gun or knife isn't much use if the wielder isn't willing.

Andrew Lim

Spectre said:
It's always about the user. Yeah, there are "better" and "worse" tools, sometimes, but the spirit is the most important part of the battle.

John
 
Yes, read about that one. Someone said it was a 110.....now it's a switchblade?
 
Yeah, I've seen this one bouncing around too. Neat story--as to the knife, I have no idea what it is, but it is definitely not a 110. That has nothing more than a passing resemblance in blade shape. Whatever it was, it seemed to be good enough. :)
 
..and grim determination.

"These guys are punching way above their weight. They're probably the bravest and most professional troops I've ever worked with"--sez it all.


To our fighting Salvadoran hermanos:
iSalud!

Keith
 
Was that our Hero's pict shown? That was a 110 style knife, but not a 110 Even munk used to own a 110

(someone stole it-I think a guy from El Salvador...)

Spectre- I liked your sentiment about the mental ability of the soldier- perhaps he'd have made do with a woefully inadequate single action revolver as well.

There's a well known incident in the Korean War when a squad of men fixed bayonets and went along enemy positions stabbing them to death. Gunfire would have alerted the others in the line.

I think the aversion to being cut is at least as deep as the fear of snakebite.



munk
 
munk said:
I think the aversion to being cut is at least as deep as the fear of snakebite. munk

The idea of having either happen to me gets the same reaction from the pit of my stomach. Whatever it takes, that guy had plenty of it when it was needed.
Respect is due him.
 
A truly stirring tale. :cool: Just goes to show, when you mean business, you can take care of business.

I'm a little hung up on the telling of this tale, however, by at least two things. First, that the ordinary lockblade folder is described as a "switchblade" and second, that the hero's friend had been "riddled" by two bullets. Isn't it sufficient to say the poor guy was shot twice and killed, without raising the rhetoric? If the aim was to punch up the story, I would think it would be better to downplay the knife. "Switchblade" pretty much screams "weapon". This guy had a "pocketknife". People could be more impressed by images of the hero fearlessly weilding a barlow. :rolleyes:
 
Mac?

look in search function under "Media, hype, poor/dramatic use of language."
 
Kis, why do I get the feeling that doing so will turn up a whooooole bunch of results? ;)
 
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THE GUY IN UNIFORM IS EL SALVADORAN SPEC OPS, WORKING IN NAJAF. THE OTHERS ARE CONTRACT SHOOTERS & BROTHERS-IN-ARMS AFTER WHAT THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH TOGETHER. NOT A PRIZE WINNER OF A PIC, BUT WAIT UNTIL YOU READ THE EXPLANATION THAT CAME WITH IT:

"This EL Sal was caught in the open by the hospital. He ran out of ammo and
stabbed some people while escaping to the base. His teamate was killed by
the badguys. His knife was a 3 dollar folding crap job.

We awarded him a Chris Reeve knife.

Hard as nails.."

THE CHRIS REEVE GREEN BERET KNIFE FROM M.S.T.N. WENT OVER WITH ONE OF THE SHOOTERS.
 
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