OT: just hangin'

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Don't know if this will mean much of anything to anyone, or even if I can spell now.

But I'm postiing anyways.

The deal is, I'm pleasantly but quite intoxicated on some micro-brew, and have some nouvealle surf musac ( Man or Astroman?) blaring on the stereo.

And I'm posting here.

Oh well, I guess it's cool. There's a nice convexed (by me) Chitlangi made by Kesar (what happened to that guy anyway?) next to me feels good because I've got a bunch of windows and doors open because it kinda warm (not hot, but wet and warm) here right now. Somehow having the biggest (and I have a big 'un) kitchen knife next to wouldn't be near the same. Course I've not chopped down a tree with that kitchen knife, though it is as sharp as that khuk.

Some might say that I need a life, but what I'm saying is that the knives I bought from Uncle Bill have enhanced whatever life it is that I've got.

If it ain't as warm and pleasant outside where you are don't bitch at me. S. Cal is FUBAR, ask munk. I'm doing the best I can, and I'm HERE. Whether that says something about me or here, I'm not sure.

But I like my Chitlangi.

Rusty, can I get some of those meds you talk about?
 
firkin said:
...but what I'm saying is that the knives I bought from Uncle Bill have enhanced whatever life it is that I've got.

Amen to that, Firkin. How's your head feeling this morning? :D
--Josh
 
I wish my neighbors would partake of the sauce like firkin. ya know, all laid back and insightful. all they do is get drunk and scream at cars. I like the post though. very cool to see someone just let his "chillin'" be known to his buddies. only in the Cantina:)


~Jake
 
Reading this thread was a fine way to start my morning, thanks Firkin. Microbrews are my poison of choice as well.

In keeping with the initial tone of the thread, I'll share an experience I had yesterday. In spite of the nature of my job, lately at work I seem to find myself chained to my desk and computer more frequently and out in the field less than I'd like.

Yesterday morning a task required me to shuttle an engineer from our district office up the lake to size up a developing problem at a remote site. A day on the water was a good way to end a very hectic week no matter how it turned out.

About two miles from our destination I had to stop the boat to allow some gals to cross our path (pictured below). This moment made my entire week, I thought I'd share it here.

Edited to add: In case you're wondering, the water's about 300 feet deep.
 
Firkin, hope your morning isn't too painful. I love microbrew, myself.

Raghorn, that is one cool picture. Bet those are the ladies who are eating my Meyer lemons.
 
firkin said:
The deal is, I'm pleasantly but quite intoxicated on some micro-brew, and have some nouvealle surf musac ( Man or Astroman?) blaring on the stereo.


I can't speak to the Micro Brew, but Man or Astroman? is a great band. One of my personal favorites is The Aqua Velvets...
 
Aardvark said:
Firkin, hope your morning isn't too painful. I love microbrew, myself.

Raghorn, that is one cool picture. Bet those are the ladies who are eating my Meyer lemons.

Ironically I took the pic about a half mile from where my avatar pic was taken a few years ago. Probably their grand daughters. :)
 
as always, it aint the intoxicant, its the user who decides ones actions.

I was having some Hoegarten Hefes last night meself. Delightful warm-weather brew.

Keith
 
Semper Fi said:
Great pic, Raghorn!

Rekindles my desire to visit Yellowstone one day. :)
Oh Yea, Yellowstone!!!!:D In 1947 we lived fairly near Yellowstone. Beautiful country to say the least.

What's sort of ironic is that in 1953 I lived in the same small Idaho town that Raggy lives in.:eek: :D
I have some good memories, and a couple of scary ones, from that somewhen/where.
I had just started puberty and the world was a brand new place it seemed. I had discovered girls years earlier than most boys and knew what they had to offer.
But I started being aware of their pheremones then and there.:rolleyes: :eek: :D ;)
I used to tell people that the town didn't experience actual sunrise until 9:00 a.m. and that the sun set at 2:00 p.m. because of the town laying in a small valley between the mountains.;)
It seemed that way to me then.
I would dearly love to go back for a visit someday. What would be an ideal dream for me is to go back and fish everywhere we lived.
There wasn't many places that didn't have good fishing of some kind.:D
 
Ferrous Wheel said:
I was having some Hoegarten Hefes last night meself. Delightful warm-weather brew.
Keith

Hoegaarden is grand stuff.

(Beer-geekness follows)

But the term "hefe", should probably not be applied to it, as that usually refers to unfiltered Bavarian wheat beers, which are quite different. Hoegaardin is a style usually called white ale, witbier, witte, wit, biere blanch, or sometimes tarwebier, and is almost always unfiltered, with a secondary fermentation in the bottle. Unlike its Bavarian relative, the wheat used for brewing is raw, or unmalted, and the beer is often flavored with spices (typically including corander and dried orange peel)--such additives would be forbidden in Germany.

A couple of OK discussions of wheat-beers here:
http://www.sallys-place.com/beverages/beer/wheat_beer.htm
http://www.epicurious.com/d_drinking/d04_wheatbeer/wheatbeer.html

This old style of wheat beer has an interesting recent history, and if it weren't for the efforts of one man named Pierre Celis, you probably couldn't find any to drink, anywhere. He re-opened a closed brewery in Hoegaarden in the 60's, and that was the start of a new life for an essentially extinct style.

http://www.globalbeer.com/web/body_pages/pages-beer/ErtveldsWit/ErtveldsWit.html
Ertvelds Wit
Brouwerij Van Steenberge
Flanders
True authentic Belgian WIT beer
refermented in the bottle & keg:
living beer
5% Alc. by Vol.
The recreation of the original Hoegaarden Wit.

Mr. Pierre Celis is generally acknowledged to have revived the old Belgian Wheat beer style, when he recreated the original Hoegaarden beer in the early 1960’s. He made this beer style a success in Belgium in the 1970’s and 1980’s. Then, he sold his brand to the mega-brewer Interbrew-Labatt, and many believe that the Hoegaarden changed in taste and aroma from that point on. Which is understandable.

With the money, Pierre emigrated to Austin-Texas and started brewing the same beer again in a brand new brewery he built, but, since he had sold the brand-name, he had to find another name and thus he named the beer : CELIS-WHITE. A few years in operation, and the emerging of a new success-story, the mega-brewer Miller bought the Celis brewery and the Celis White brand-name at the height of the microbrew-hype in 1996. Amazingly, the only thing they did with the brewery was down-grading it, taking the Celis White brand of almost all the markets, and eventually closing the brewery in 2000. This Miller adventure was such a disappointing experience for Mr. Celis that he had already moved back to Belgium.

Fast forward to late 2002, when Miller sold the brewery equipment of the closed Celis brewery to a small brewer in Michigan, who also bought the Celis White brand from Miller.

Back in Europe, Pierre Celis, started to brew his beloved beer again under contract by the De Smedt brewery, and sold it under the brand-name CELIS WHITE all over Europe. He had retained the rights to that brand-name in Europe. But not more than a year later this brewery was bought by the mega-brewer Heineken, and Mr. Celis was again without a brewery. Then he found the Van Steenberge brewery who bought the brand-name Celis White from Mr. Celis plus the whole brew-recipe. Together with the brew-crew of the Van Steenberge brewery, Pierre Celis re-invented again his original white beer and hopefully so for the last time, allowing Mr. Celis finally to live knowing that his original beer is still alive! Celis White is sold all over Europe.

This same beer is now bottled under the brand-name Ertvelds Wit to be sold in the USA, since the rights to the Celis White brand-name for the USA are in the hands of the Michigan brewery. So far this beer, the Ertvelds Wit, the original Hoegaarden recreated by Mr. Pierre Celis, is only available through the www.beveragebistro.com web site, and on draft in a few selected bars in the USA. Ertvelde is the village where the Van Steenberge brewery is located.


A fair number of beers brewed in similar style are available, depending, of course upon the "sophistication" of the local beer market. You might also like Wieckse Witte (Holland), or Blance de Honells, or Blanch de Chambly (Quebec), though some of these do not have the added spices. Alagash (Maine) is said to make a good version, which I've not tried. Avoid the cloying "Blue Moon" stuff, which is a "stealth megabrew" from Coors, if other options are available. I'm sure that many other microbreweries and brewpubs are trying/claiming to produce the style, but with few exceptions I find that so far though there are some notable exceptions, most American brewers attempts to brew any sort of wheat beer turn out rather insipid, perhaps because they choose to tailor such light colored beers beers to appeal those that don't like beer with assertive flavor. Can't neglect the large "Bud" market. It's embarrasing and unthinkable to put a Bud-lite tap in your brew pub.

Michigan Brewing Company, which purchased the equipment from Miller and moved the lot to Michigan, is said to now be producing a fine product with consultation from Mr. Celis, but so far distribution is very limited.

http://www.michiganbrewing.com/mbc.asp

Somebody called Brick is producing Celis White in Canada, apparently having purchsed brand from Miller. Dunno how that is said to compare.

http://www.bartowel.com/brick.phtml

Quite the saga, that of Mr Celis' beer. I was really sad when Miller stopped ditributing it here--it was as good or better than the imported Hoegaarden, more available while it lasted, not to mention considerably cheaper to boot.

If you like wits, you might want to try the styles known as Saison, Biere de Garde, Country, or Farmhouse ale, which employ some similar brewing methods, but usually lack the spices. Maybe Belgian and Belgian-style tripples as well.

Heres a couple more links about this story, some of which mention similar witbiers:

http://www.allaboutbeer.com/style/23.4-witbier.html

http://www.brewingtechniques.com/library/styles/2_4style.html

http://www.homebrewmart.com/newslet1.html

http://www.alexanderwines.co.uk/beerguide.shtml

The truely nerdy may find that,

"A Turn-of-the Century British Account of Selected 19th Century Belgian Brewing Methods"

http://www.brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue2.6/mosher.html

may be of interest--what a contrast to todays beer factories!

Back to regular programming, and cheers.
 
You sure do type good for being intoxicated. you should have some more. :D

Momma told me one time growing up, with a serious face, "Son, don't ever touch the firewater... it just makes us wanna get naked and do the wardance". I thought she was kidding until I got drunk for the first time around 15. I had enough from the ages of 15-22, that I probably don't have to drink anymore in this life and still have to wonder about liver stuff.

I remember back then at 15, I thought it would be a good idea one night to take my scooter permit (good for 125cc or less motorbike for a radius of no more than 5 miles from the house), grab my old man's Harley (1200cc), and hit the college bars in nearby Knoxville, TN, a good hour ride from our little small town. I knew I could get in at those bars and get drunk. BTW- never throw a throwing knife at a dart board in a bar where you don't know anybody...

Here I am, about to turn 35 in August, still going to college, because I was too busy drinking, fighting and training back then... then again, I can say that I have truly been alive this lifetime!
 
'hefe' means yeast in German. I always thought that it had something to do with the manufacturing process.
 
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