OT:Knife attack in Great Britian

Easy...they took their guns away from them. When folks are armed with firearms, knife wielders think twice.
 
english survival handbook page 23

chapter 14: when confronted by a crazy knife weilding turkish mental patient

1. put down whatever you are carrying.

2. pull out your mobile phone and dial 999. if you have left it home, please use a convenient phone booth or ask a passer-by to loan you theirs.

3. when they answer select the police versus the fire service from the auto-menu. you may wish to select ambulance service if the maniac is continuing to stab you. in that case skip to page 27.

4. select speak to an officer rather than record a message from the next menu.

5. ask the maniac to politely refrain from stabbing you while you are trying to talk to the nice policeman.

6. describe to the officer exactly where you are and what the crazed turk is doing to you. please ask the maniac to put down the knife and await the arrival of the unarmed officer.

7. you must request an ambulance if you believe the blood loss is serious.
the national health service will not be held responsiblee if you do not.

8. upon completion of the computerised form by the call center in bombay, a constable will be despatched to your location to ensure that the report has been filled out correctly. please stand by until he arrives. please ask the turk to wait also. if the constable does not arrive within 3 hours, please go home and await him there if you have given your complete home address and phone number in step 8. you may make a cup of tea at home for the turk to ensure he does not become dehydrated waiting for the nice policeman.

9. please ensure you have your government issued identy card with you to make certain we can fight terrorism successfully. if not you will be fined on the spot, so please have the £50 pound fine ready in that case.

10. if the police have determined that it is safe, and that all forms have been filled out, they may allow the ambulance service to take you to the hospital for treatment. you may be required to ride along with the turk to the hospital as he will need to be treated as well. the police officer may request that he stop stabbing you during the journey if you so request.

11. remember, in no case are you allowed to defend yourself by violating the maniacs rights. only the police may be permitted to apply minimum logic to vocally persuade the maniac to give them the knife. don't forget they are unarmed also. if they feel in danger, they may call in an armed response team. armed response teams are for some reason in great demand, so must be scheduled at least 5 days in advance.

of course by now you probably have bled to death, but can go happy in the knowledge that you have not violated the criminals rights or inconvenienced him, and you have allowed him to express his religion without restraint.

next see page 256. How to arrange your own funeral
 
Kronkew;

we have the same booklet here in the US. There's a condensed version available, though, that makes the process much quicker.

Dial 9-1-1 and Die.



munk
 
There are laws against crazy people but only sane people obey them, which soon makes them crazy too.




munk
 
munk said:
There are laws against crazy people but only sane people obey them, which soon makes them crazy too.

munk
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Either that or dead.:rolleyes: :(
 
don't forget we are living in a socialist workers paradise over here, there are no crazy people, just the emotionally challenged.

restricting their rights by, heaven forbid, locking up those that might desire to express their anger at society by creative carving would be very wrong and anti-labour.

the only mentally ill people are those who cannot understand the labour party message of joy thru higher taxes and government regulation, and thus they must be ignored or marginalised for their own good.

it is only necessary to ban the tools, such as, ick!, evil guns, and next their evil offspring knives, bats, hammers, sticks, screwdrivers, scissors, staplers, forks, belts, rope, wire, plastic, clothing, horrible poisonous medicines like aspirin, and other things like food - and all will be fine and an earthly paradise of gentle socially responsible obedient sheeple will make our fearless leader class proud.
 
Maybe it will get better, maybe things can change after the failure of some ideas.




munk
 
munk, i hope so, the current government thinks it's going to win another term by more lies and spin.

they just lost their home secretary (a bit like our attourney general back home) over him using his position to fast track a work visa for his mistress's nanny, (didn't think fooling around with another mans wife was grounds for resigning either & is sueing her and her husband for visitation rights on her unborn child which he thinks might be his - he wants to be a 'responsible parent') they are already talking about 'rehabilitating' him back into the govt. after they win the next election. a bit like they did with tony bliar's chief spin doctor Mandleson who was forced to resign 3 times and was brought back three times before they promoted him to a high paid sinecure in the eec burocracy in brussels.

they'll probably do something the townies like, like banning knives & all 'cruel' field sports, adding id cards and internal travel permits, and removing our right to trial by jury just before the election, as well as reducing direct taxes for poor people (while increasing indirect taxes like that on fuel and alchohol). the govt. hates country folk as they are less easily controlled.

they've just rewarded the army for the great job they are doing overseas in iraq by cutting back on manpower, dissolving major historical regiments like the Black Watch, and other cost cutting, in order to pay for more socially responsible experiments.

Christmas message by our defense secretary: "Congradulations to our wonderful troops on their excellent performance during the recent fallujah cleanup. please all file to the rear of the hall to pick up your pink slips, assistance for signing up for the dole will be provided. anyone left on active duty by oversight will be required to work double shifts to make up for the loss of personell, and may be asked to work quadruple shifts to make up for the increased duties being assigned to the survivors of the cuts. this is required because our time and motion study experts have noticed that most armed forces personnel are only spending 12 hrs a day 7 days a week actually working. by pure arethmetic logic we can see that if we double their workload, we can halve the number of troops. you all can be replaced by our highly reliable modern electronics anyway. after the election we may consider further reductions by requiring them to work 36 hrs a day as our changes are shown to be effective in freeing up funds for the care and pampering of illegal immigrants"
 
another example of how our government rewards people who try to make a difference and rise above the masses...

Unpaid mayor tries, and fails, to go on dole in Britain [size=-1] LONDON (AFP) - The unpaid mayor of a small English town has reportedly applied for unemployment benefits, but been rejected since he spends too much time at mandatory civic events.[/size]

[size=-1]According to The Daily Telegraph, Roy Miller lost his full-time job at a print factory, which closed at the weekend after laying off its 400 employees. Miller, who is 53 and married with two children, was refused the 55 pounds (106 dollars, 79 euros) per week handed out to other sacked employees, because of his unpaid mayoral activities. "It's an insult. I might be the number-one citizen, but I still have bills and a mortgage to pay like all the other workers," he said. "I've never claimed a penny off the state, but now just because I'm doing my bit for the town they say I don't qualify for any help. It stinks." Miller receives a 7,500-pound allowance per year as a ward concillor for Barnsley, located in South Yorkshire in the north of England. He has been a Labour member of the city's council for the past 18 years, but picks up no extra pay as mayor. A Job Centre spokesman declined to comment on the case but said that welfare recipients had to be "available for work 40 hours a week".[/size]
 
I used to work as a Social Worker for the State of Nevada. I recently read a signature line that I can agree with wholeheartedly:

People like you are the reason
people like me take medication.

I'm not pointing any fingers, but what I've seen happen makes it difficult to balance my beliefs in the inherent goodness in most people with what I've seen them do repeatedly to others of all ages from children to the elderly. And it's also the reason why I have a concealed carry license.
 
Oh yes: read down the page linked to and there are stories on why the UK is running short on diamophine - one of the to pharmaceutical companies that made the tainted flu vaccine was shut down temporarily - which also shut the other parts of the plant down from making diamorphine.

Sorry, the new year is a time when many people stop to see how their lives have gone thru the past year and look to change things for the better. I'll be in a better attitude after the first.
 
Here's my quick, immediate, gut impression:

People are inherently good, but many parents screw their kids up. Or some kids are mentally sick and will always be that way. Damm.

Also, human, as well as animal nature is generally a harsh thing. Survivalist. It's nice to help your friends, but like it or not, there will be times when somebody does not like you and wants to hurt you. Point is, there are hostile people out there.

Whether they wish to harm you with their bare hands, wire, guns, tanks, words, it doesn't really matter except for efficiency and intent.

Thus, the solution is not to restrict the weapons or to try to make society a bunch of sheeple. Society will never be sheeple. People like those here will always fail to accept this standardized mentality. And restricting weapons doesn't work because psychos can always hurt. Only the sane and law-abiding will obey such regulations.

Thus, the solution i prefer is this: prepare yourself. If some crazed SOB runs up to you with a Ka-bar, be prepared to fight back. This isn't some macho thing. It's practical. It's natural. The article proves it happens, and America has a LOT more violence per capita than Great Britain.

People call me paranoid or think me odd for always carrying a knife of some size. I generally just respond by saying they're useful. Let they keep their silly preconceptions. If they want to debate the subject with me, I know I can win.

Societal apathy and general acceptance of public protection (LEO) as the end-all is not a good idea IMO. In cases such as that illustrated in the article, the need for self-defense and preparedness is vividly illustrated. I don't accept the move away from individualism. I reserve the right to watch my own back if I want. I reserve the right to help out an old guy who's being senselessly mugged, such as in the article. Not everybody feels this need, but I do.

I've said my piece. It's late. It's Christmas eve. Probably not as well-written as it could have been, but I expect that this audience will recieve it well regardless. After all, I'm not the only one here who likes *big* knifes! :)

Merry Christmas, all.

Best wishes always.

Nam
 
According to the UN International Study on Firearm Regulation, in 1994 the homicide rate in England (including Wales) was 1.4 (9% involving firearms), and the robbery rate 116, per 100,000 population. In the United States, the homicide rate was almost 9.0 (70% involving firearms), and the robbery rate 234, per 100,000. England has strict gun control laws, ergo, the argument goes, the homicide rate is far lower than in the United States. However, such comparisons can be dangerous: in 1900, when England had no gun controls, the homicide rate was only 1.0 per 100,000.

Moreover, using data through 1996, the U.S. Department of Justice study Crime and Justice concluded that in England the robbery rate was 1.4 times higher, the assault rate was 2.3 higher, and the burglary rate was 1.7 times higher than in the United States. Only the murder and rape rates in the United States were higher than in England.
 
Note that such studies often do not discriminate whether the violence was justified:

( " ...he came at me with a knife officer, and I told him to stop or I'd shoot, he didn't stop so I shot and kept shooting til he fell down and dropped the knife! )

The most common and repeatedly validated studies show that firearms in the hands of intended victims precluded the crime from occuring in over 95% of incidents reported.
 
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