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Shoulda wore kneepads. 
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BruiseLeee said:Shoulda wore kneepads.
How many dozen pair?
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It kills me just thinking about how much money had to be scraped up to pay for a nice motorcycle like that just so that idiot could ride it off some ramp and destroy it and put himself in the hospital.
Hey, he could have just sent me the money and I could have gotten some extra classes and a new saya for my sword.....
Hey, he could have just sent me the money and I could have gotten some extra classes and a new saya for my sword.....
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Lets find out who that guy is and send him an email.
Tell him just to send his bike payments directly to me in japan.
Tell him just to send his bike payments directly to me in japan.
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ow! Wonder if he sues the off camera voice telling him; "you can go twice as fast". 
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Well since we're talking about insanity, explain to me why men like women with these things?????
Women Speak at FDA Breast-Implant Hearing
By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer
WASHINGTON - Women who blame silicone-gel breast implants for crippling health problems faced women who called them the best option in an emotional debate Monday as government scientists consider whether it's time to lift a decade-plus ban on most of the devices.
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"They poisoned my mother," said a tearful Brenna Dowd of Boise, Idaho. "I have never known a healthy mother."
"I don't want anybody else to suffer this way," said Susan Helman of Florida, who described autoimmune diseases that she attributes to platinum left in her body when her implants broke apart.
Thirteen years after the Food and Drug Administration ordered silicone-gel implants restricted to use in strictly controlled research studies, the agency is considering if it's time to allow their widespread sale.
The list of speakers at Monday's hearing included dozens of women who say their implants left crippling scars, and others who call the silicone version a more natural-looking option than saline implants and who contend that consumers should be free to choose.
"We have a right to decide what is right for our own bodies," said Virginia Silverman of Orange County, Calif. She initially chose salt water-filled implants for reconstruction after breast cancer surgery but found them so hard that she replaced them in 2001 with silicone-gel implants that she finds more comfortable.
"We are neither ignorant nor shallow," said Arlene Nicole Cummings, who runs a pro-gel implant Web site. "Women along with their surgeons should be allowed to choose silicone or saline."
Still in question is how long the devices will last inside a woman's body and just what happens if they break and the silicone gel oozes into the breast or beyond.
The FDA is conducting a three-day meeting with its scientific advisers to debate whether two manufacturers, Inamed and Mentor corporations, have proved that their implants are durable and safe enough to re-enter the U.S. market.
In preliminary analyses released last week, FDA scientists suggested the companies have not, saying their data is of "limited value" in settling the concerns.
It's an emotionally charged issue, as evidenced by the FDA's unusual decision to schedule at least 15 hours on Monday to hear testimony from the public.
"No medical device lasts a lifetime," said Dr. Caroline Glicksman, a New Jersey plastic surgeon who said she has implanted thousands of the silicone-gel version. She said the FDA's decision should be based "on facts, not politics and emotion."
Silicone-gel implants were sold for decades until the FDA implemented the 1992 restrictions. Since then, they have been available only to women enrolled in strictly controlled research studies because of fears the implants could cause major health problems.
The implants have been largely exonerated of causing such serious illnesses as cancer or lupus. But painful scar tissue that can form around them breaks that require surgery to remove or replace implants and other complications remain contentious. Just 15 months ago, the FDA told manufacturers that it wouldn't lift restrictions on the implants' sale until questions about breakage in particular are settled.
Inamed and Mentor filed studies with the FDA suggesting that over three to four years, anywhere from roughly 1 percent to 20 percent of implants rupture, requiring patients to undergo additional surgery to remove or replace them.
But those studies tracked small numbers of women for a short time, FDA scientists cautioned in preliminary analyses posted on the agency's Web site last week. One FDA estimate suggested that up to three-quarters of the devices might rupture within 10 years of implantation.
It's the second time in less than two years that the FDA is debating the silicone-gel implants. In October 2003, its advisers narrowly recommended allowing the implants to be sold again. The agency declined to follow that advice.
Women Speak at FDA Breast-Implant Hearing
By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer
WASHINGTON - Women who blame silicone-gel breast implants for crippling health problems faced women who called them the best option in an emotional debate Monday as government scientists consider whether it's time to lift a decade-plus ban on most of the devices.
Photo
Reuters Photo
Yahoo! Health
Have questions about your health?
Find answers here.
"They poisoned my mother," said a tearful Brenna Dowd of Boise, Idaho. "I have never known a healthy mother."
"I don't want anybody else to suffer this way," said Susan Helman of Florida, who described autoimmune diseases that she attributes to platinum left in her body when her implants broke apart.
Thirteen years after the Food and Drug Administration ordered silicone-gel implants restricted to use in strictly controlled research studies, the agency is considering if it's time to allow their widespread sale.
The list of speakers at Monday's hearing included dozens of women who say their implants left crippling scars, and others who call the silicone version a more natural-looking option than saline implants and who contend that consumers should be free to choose.
"We have a right to decide what is right for our own bodies," said Virginia Silverman of Orange County, Calif. She initially chose salt water-filled implants for reconstruction after breast cancer surgery but found them so hard that she replaced them in 2001 with silicone-gel implants that she finds more comfortable.
"We are neither ignorant nor shallow," said Arlene Nicole Cummings, who runs a pro-gel implant Web site. "Women along with their surgeons should be allowed to choose silicone or saline."
Still in question is how long the devices will last inside a woman's body and just what happens if they break and the silicone gel oozes into the breast or beyond.
The FDA is conducting a three-day meeting with its scientific advisers to debate whether two manufacturers, Inamed and Mentor corporations, have proved that their implants are durable and safe enough to re-enter the U.S. market.
In preliminary analyses released last week, FDA scientists suggested the companies have not, saying their data is of "limited value" in settling the concerns.
It's an emotionally charged issue, as evidenced by the FDA's unusual decision to schedule at least 15 hours on Monday to hear testimony from the public.
"No medical device lasts a lifetime," said Dr. Caroline Glicksman, a New Jersey plastic surgeon who said she has implanted thousands of the silicone-gel version. She said the FDA's decision should be based "on facts, not politics and emotion."
Silicone-gel implants were sold for decades until the FDA implemented the 1992 restrictions. Since then, they have been available only to women enrolled in strictly controlled research studies because of fears the implants could cause major health problems.
The implants have been largely exonerated of causing such serious illnesses as cancer or lupus. But painful scar tissue that can form around them breaks that require surgery to remove or replace implants and other complications remain contentious. Just 15 months ago, the FDA told manufacturers that it wouldn't lift restrictions on the implants' sale until questions about breakage in particular are settled.
Inamed and Mentor filed studies with the FDA suggesting that over three to four years, anywhere from roughly 1 percent to 20 percent of implants rupture, requiring patients to undergo additional surgery to remove or replace them.
But those studies tracked small numbers of women for a short time, FDA scientists cautioned in preliminary analyses posted on the agency's Web site last week. One FDA estimate suggested that up to three-quarters of the devices might rupture within 10 years of implantation.
It's the second time in less than two years that the FDA is debating the silicone-gel implants. In October 2003, its advisers narrowly recommended allowing the implants to be sold again. The agency declined to follow that advice.
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Gin, not all men like or approve of breast implants.mamav said:Well since we're talking about insanity, explain to me why men like women with these things?????
Women Speak at FDA Breast-Implant Hearing
By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer
WASHINGTON - Women who blame silicone-gel breast implants for crippling health problems faced women who called them the best option in an emotional debate Monday as government scientists consider whether it's time to lift a decade-plus ban on most of the devices.
You're a Gold Member, take a deep breath and go visit the Pirate's Cove to see what a lot of the men here think of them.
From what I've read there the general consensus is that, at least, most of the men here in BFC prefer our ladies breast's to be natural.
A great deal of the time it is the women themselves that are ashamed of their natural endowment and want breast augmentation.
One of my ex-wives was very, very, small and wore falsies to make it appear that she had a little more than what she had.
We never talked about it but I'm sure she would've jumped at the chance for augmentation if she could've afforded it.
She got madder than hell at me one night because I pulled a falsie out of my freshly washed pants leg and held it up in front of her kids making some smartass remark.
It tickled the hell outta me and the kids though and they didn't think anything of it.
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I like them perfectly round and hard as a green apple!
Im a fake boob man!
(of course, Ive had all kinds and they all had their charms, but nothing wakes a soldier in the morning like the sight of two gloriously unnatural, perfectly round spheres on a womans chest)
Im a fake boob man!
(of course, Ive had all kinds and they all had their charms, but nothing wakes a soldier in the morning like the sight of two gloriously unnatural, perfectly round spheres on a womans chest)
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Dude...if they are "unnatural"...why would you want them on a real, live woman? I think nothing wakes a soldier like a soft, warm woman with a sweet new-morning smile of greeting and a welcoming hug.
Hell- really, I don't know much about waking soldiers. I just know what makes me feel really special, y'know? All the rest is just peripheral.
John
Hell- really, I don't know much about waking soldiers. I just know what makes me feel really special, y'know? All the rest is just peripheral.
John
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