OT: Neat. Liberator .45 pistol

That's about all they were Kis...but effective. One might compare them to the later original Powder Springs Cobrays...no more than needed to go bang (okay, with the Cobray it was more like bangbangbangbangbang)
 
I was a "Small Arms Marksmanship Training Unit" range instructor, commonly referred to as a "Red Hat" back in the day. They'd hit fairly close to point of aim within 15 feet or so, but the recoil was horrendous...it'd be unlikely that you'd ever fire it twice. The real problem was the low velocity generated by the short barrel...probably not over 500 fps. Low velocity + heavy 230gr projectile = low effectivness, better hit a target with little covering the target. A .22 zip gun would do better if only because you are only trying to accellerate a 70gr bullet through that stubby barrel.
 
anyone else see the myth busters episode where they tried to determine if a penny could kill you if thrown off the empire state building?

the penny bullet attachment is kinda like that... kinda.... :rolleyes:

*attach a box to the front of the gun, put penny in box. fire blank round, air persure throws penny into the human skull (EXPLODING it)* *alsok, once you melt the box, its untracable :eek: *
 
Nasty said:
I was a "Small Arms Marksmanship Training Unit" range instructor, commonly referred to as a "Red Hat" back in the day.


Hey Nasty, I almost was a Red Hat... had my paperwork in to cross-train when OSI talked me out of it (and into their organization). Sometimes I wish I'd gone through and gone the CATM route.

When/where were you in?

Alan
 
AC - I had the same situatuation...counter offers, but this was well before the change to Combat Arms Training and Maintenance. Had I known that they were going to screw up the career field, I'd have done the same as you. When it was SAMTU, it was the greatest job in the AF...shoot all week, then shoot in competition on the weekends. I *do* still have both my old ballcaps though...;-)
 
I have a buddy who taught English to VN in Saigon...he was moving out with everyone else when the NVA rolled in, band instruments a-blaring.

Keith
 
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