OT: Update on previous story

mamav

mamav

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You might recall I told you about the lad who molested my daughter and how the state just kept letting him off with no consequences. Well, for a few months it appeared that he was toeing the line and obeying the authorities. but come to find out, he was just smoke screening for the rest of the guys in the house and actively planning and participating in more illegal behavior. This time he got caught red-handed with drugs, stolen items,alchol and smokes. Once again they got away with all activities. Now it seems to me that this is a little bit too much. He also got caught having a sexual relation with another kid. He's signed a contract saying that all of these things were not going to be tolerated and yet they do nothing.

Now look at it from a victims point of view. She is relapsing again into the afraid of everything, get me out of here,no trust in anyone routine. Can you blame her. She now knows that nothing will be done and that this kid will be out on the streets in less than a year free to come and go as he pleases and by his own admission has no intentions of doing what is right. (he actually wrote that in the letter to his social worker) As a parent what do you do? :mad:

Thanks for letting me vent. Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
After a few weekends of going home to Dallas and visiting with old friends and finding out what happened to others all I can say is what I have learned.

I can now guarantee that one will pay for their wrong doings either physical or emotional. Call it Karma, call it come-up pence, call it paying the piper… whatever. One will answer for their own actions. I cannot say when, or how, or if it will be soon enough. I do not know if your daughter will ever return to her former self. But sooner or later he will pay.

I have learned to do the right thing, or at least to do my darndest to do the right thing, because I have learned that to price is much to high otherwise. I know people that make millions a year, have everything their hearts desire, but are empty and alone due to moral decisions they have made. I pray for them, although I doubt it will help ease their suffering, mainly because it is their burden to bear for living the high and fast life.

I am sure you will do the right thing, your daughter will emulate you, and she will grow to become the woman you know that she can be. I will pray for yalls recovery and peace of mind.

The price of this boys actions will be too great.
 
mamav, sorry but this is the first I've read of the situation... Is the offender a juvenile or a legal adult? It makes a difference when planning his demise.
 
Juvenile who has been in treatment for 2.5 years doing the same therapy nonsense over and over again. Looks like it is working real well:rolleyes:
 
You are a good person mamav. Stay strong in this for yourself and you daughter. Everything else I have to say about someone like this, that does thees things, should not be put into print on the public record. Good luck, we all wish you and yours the best.
 
Stay strong for your daughter Mamav & Hoghead. It would be tempting to turn him into a eunuch.
My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Steve
 
I'm not aware of this whole situation, but it sounds like these happenings are in a co-ed juvenile facility run by the state?

If that's the case, i would try to rally as many "groups" as possible (such as anti- child abuse), politicians, lawyers, state's attourney/prosecutor, etc...

I won't pretend to be knowledgeable about this, but if children are'nt being protected while under the state's supervision, then certain heads NEED to roll, and accountability for this should go above and beyond a termination or two. Perhaps filing a civil suit against the state? Your daughter's civil rights have been violated, another child's too, and the perpetrator has not been treated criminally. I've just read more than three offenses that are severe in nature, yet this kid is just slapped on the wrist?? No... this must not be allowed to pass. What if he decides he can get away with murder next?

My thoughts are with you mamav, i hope you find the path to correct this injustice.

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Once, i even got Bill O'Reilly behind an injustice. Call out to everyone for help in this, media rallies people, and with public outcry you can effect a change here. (Or so i would really like to believe!)
 
Juvenile, hmmmmm well $#!t. Looks like it might be best to wait until he attains adult status in your State before ruining the rest of his miserable life. Although this may sound stupid since it gives him time to continue his crimes, it also gives y'all time to plan and perfect your intentions/actions. Having worked with 90% women for the last 15 years -I quite sure your hate of him will remain strong till then.

Regardless of what occurs to him, it may only bring temporary solace to your daughter. She'll probably carry distrust and suspicion with her for a very long time. Her family's love and support will be instrumental in making her a survivor, not a victim :)

Anyway, I'm generally a live and let live kinda person. But when someone goes out of their way to f#{k with me then I figure they have no respect for me as a human being and deserve no quarter. Hence in this situation I recommend emasculation. Death would be too quick and not offer him a lifetime of reflection. Further, there is always a chance of 'getting caught', so better to go to prison (...couple of years, maybe probation :D) for castrating someone than for murder.

You already know what attracts him, so there's your bait. All you need is two guys (family with an interest in this matter would be good), a place that offers a little privacy and a pair of rusty scissors. Have you given any thought to accessorizing your wardrobe with a new 'necklace' Mamav :D

...Oh yeah, almost forgot. Get his date of birth and Social Security Number. These can be invaluable in finding info on someone and destroying their life. BTW, I'm not joking about any of this!
 
Originally posted by mamav .... the lad who molested my daughter ........ She is relapsing again......... Any ideas would be appreciated.
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idea first----know when he gets out & be aware where he is.

As a parent of a daughter, the whole problem makes me sick with empathy.

I can offer my best thoughts & prayers.
 
Good news either way:

If he is a juvenile he will continue doing the same and in a western small state is in for an awakening when he turns 21( or 18 ). They take adults doing that kind of thing far more seriously, and repeated slaps on the wrist end with becoming an adult.

When he turns an adult he will find:

1) judges realize that pedophiles have a 100 % recidivism rate when released. That's because the rest die in prison.

2) They have a name "shorteyes" in prisons for his type. Even cons dislike shorteyes. Really dislike them. Believe me on this - I sent 30 odd people back to prison to await the following month's Parole Board revocation hearings.

His odds of dying in bed in his 70's are not good. That's even if there is neither God nor Karma, which I wouldn't bet against even at 100 to 1 odds.

In the meantime get her a 20 ga. auto ( or pump ) youth model, and either get/give her lessons or show her as soon as she's big enough. And start her on 22 pistols/Jframe S&W's as appropriate.

( Addition on edit: get her a nice rifle. A paratrooper SKS or Saiga 10 round or M1 Carbine if auto in intermediate caliber, a 357 or 44 mag or 30-30 lever with light loads like 22 accelerators with power to increase with her expertise, or a lightweight youth bolt, say in 243, 250 Savage. )

I regret I don't have a spare castrating knife. Try calling a working cattle ranch and ask for the two of you to be invited to the nest rocky mountain oyster harvest... who knows, you may get a chance for some hands on practice...

( Edit again: She has her own khuk already, right? If not email UB about the occasional 9" like Yangdu had - or the CBKC size that comes in once in a blue moon. In the meantime, Yangdu can be on the lookout for the right 12" Sirupati. Get her her own tactical folder to clip in he pocket the first thing on home from school, and the last thing off on her way out the door to school. )

The next time you hit a town with a bookstore, especially if it's got an "X"tian bookstore, look ( ask if you have to ) for a book by Richard Foster, ( a Quaker who's written several books ) for a book called "Prayers From the Heart." Thin, small EXCELLENT book, and I'd give you the ISBN # but both of my copies are loned out. It has a multipart prayer in several consecutive parts for anger, leading up to FINALLY asking for God's forgiveness for the attacker - to be prayed by you for your own sake, and for your daughter to be prayed by her for hers. I think it cones in five or six parts, and it may take a week of more on each before movinge to the next step. If you and your daughter can accomplish that prayer it will release the hate, for both of your best interests.

Foster has written several absolutely excellent books on mechanics of untalked about disciplines in the Chistian church. One is "Celebration of Discipline" ( for some reason priests/ministers don't think the laity need to be taught about the various spiritual disciplines - nonsense! everyone involved in spiritual matters needs them ). Another is "Prayer", a much longer book than the "Prayers From the Heart". Foster (IIRC) does a comprehensive breakdown by chapter of each of the 7 inward forms of prayer ( for willingness to prepare for change ), upward forms of prayer ( for change, empowerment ), and outward, to bring newfound knowlege to action. All books are pretty nonsectarian. I should reread them myself, if I can get them back.

I keep them lent out so I don't have to feel guilty about doing the prayer for release for hatred myself. For my own good. I'll live a longer and happier life if I turn justice over to the "Occupant Upstairs", whomever s/he might be.

PS: If it looks like it's becoming increasingly possible, send me an email and I'll loan you my Primble castrating knife. To be returned later of course.
 
Thanks guy for all the concern. I will look for the book, Rusty. It sounds good. I like the idea of getting some outside news to cover this town and all the injustice in the system. I know of 3 men who got off here for the same crime. It really is a wierd system. I haven't quite figured North Platte out. I know also the mother of one of the other boys was on parole for meth use and distribution, failed a drug test and is still out on the streets with no punishment. That said a whole lot to the boys about getting into trouble. It's crazy here.
 
I'm with BillTheCat. In fact, I'll help. I can't adequately express how I feel about such cretins without using inappropriate language for the HI forum, so suffice it to say that I feel for you both very deeply. Death is too good for such scum.
 
Another indirect option is to try to determine which political party condones and encourages the coddling of criminals and never cast your vote for them.

The Catholic Church just had to pay a MASSIVE settlement to the people
abused and molested by the pedophile priests--Think about a lawyer to file a lawsuit on your daughters behalf against the system.

Buy her a Kel-tec P-32 or a North American 22LR and teach her how to use it.

Check on support groups that meet on a weekly basis to share their stories and strategies on recovery and healing. That lets her know she's not facing this alone.

Make sure she carries a cell phone and can always get in touch with you and the HOG.
 
( Edit again: She has her own khuk already, right?
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Mamav, if she does not, it would be my honor to present her with one. This whole thing makes me sick.
 
Another thing or two thought of later. Go to Mendowood and look for some lighter, extra tall canes as walking sticks for you and her.

The other is, god love her, train her to be your stealth bodyguard. Or Hoghead.

If she's trained to deliver destruction via her teeth to their neck from the side or behind in 1&1/2 seconds and meantime popping their eyes out while the scum are ignoring her and taking you or Hogshead out you she's not only learning to take care of herself. She's learning to make sure nothing hurts you or Hogshead, to protect you.

And she's learning for sure how much you and her dad are ready to do for her. Sounds like love to me, mamav.

Jeff Cooper's remark that you'll know you're ready when someone who attacks you by surprise is in more danger from you than you are from them. That would be something for a teen to know. I have faith you and Hogshead can teach her that
 
Ginger, this is awfull, You didnt tell me about this, there (as usual) some good advise here. All I can say is you are a very fine person and I just have a feeling this will work out for you. My thoughts are with you and your family. Rod
I have to confess I am a bit with Bill the Cat.
 
My heart says drag him out to the wilderness and feed him to the crows and coyotes. My head says call newspapers, radio stations, TV stations, lawyers, N.O.W. and other women's groups. And don't stop till somebody sits up and takes notice. Also, I cannot recommend a big dog highly enough. A pair of big dogs can do a lot to make noises at night not so frightening. Also good, a neck knife like the Emerson LaGriffe and a pair of steel-toe boots. And above all, faith.

Frank
 
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