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OT- US Militancy Test
- Thread starter Spectre
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You scored higher than 99% on honesty
You scored higher than 99% on intelligence
I think it's broken.
You scored higher than 99% on intelligence
I think it's broken.
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Greetings: John
This is J. W. Kilpatrick here. Just want to point out that all the answers listed to select from on question #5 are incorrect. The correct answer is that the USA always wins and never loses. That is the 1st thing that I was taught as a young man when I entered an all male military college here in Texas. That college was Texas A&M College from which I eventually entered the U S Army as an infantry officer and finally became a U S army ranger.
I was clearly taught that we may possibly get out manuvered, shot up, blown away, outscored, and whatever else other description one may want to come up with, but one thing was for sure ---- we always won & we never lost and we never got beat at anything.
And for every soldier that was killed in battle, it was never a wasted life because they died fighting for our country. Being a soldier and dying for our country is an honorable thing and every soldier who gives his life for his country should be honored as such.
So, enter that option for question #5 ---- We always win and never lose.
There ye be, brother.
J. W. Kilpatrick
This is J. W. Kilpatrick here. Just want to point out that all the answers listed to select from on question #5 are incorrect. The correct answer is that the USA always wins and never loses. That is the 1st thing that I was taught as a young man when I entered an all male military college here in Texas. That college was Texas A&M College from which I eventually entered the U S Army as an infantry officer and finally became a U S army ranger.
I was clearly taught that we may possibly get out manuvered, shot up, blown away, outscored, and whatever else other description one may want to come up with, but one thing was for sure ---- we always won & we never lost and we never got beat at anything.
And for every soldier that was killed in battle, it was never a wasted life because they died fighting for our country. Being a soldier and dying for our country is an honorable thing and every soldier who gives his life for his country should be honored as such.
So, enter that option for question #5 ---- We always win and never lose.
There ye be, brother.
J. W. Kilpatrick
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We both have real jobs...but have no connection with the military...NOT!
Good test John!
Hope you are good!
Shane
Good test John!
Hope you are good!
Shane
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JW,
It is excellent to be idealistic, and it's great to be motivated.
Knowing and speaking the truth is even more important.
Let me give you one quick example of a conflict the US in no way "won".
The Barbary Pirates had been a nuisance for years in the Mediterranean. In the early 1800s, not being satisfied with merely capturing US merchant vessels for ransom and enslaving their crew, they came to open conflict with all US vessels.
I'll make my summary quick: despite some few notable victories, the US suffered numerous defeats, including the loss of the USS Philadelphia on a reef at low tide. (All the captain had to do was wait for high tide- the surrounding pirate vessels' cannon were shorter-ranged; but, he surrendered.) Finally, with the rightful ruler in tow, a "combined" Arab-American-Greek force (those vaunted "shores of Tripoli" Marines were a mere handful) marched towards Tripoli, fighting a bloody battle at Derne. As they neared their objective, with increasing popular support among the indigenous people, the US representative paid to negotiate a peace with the ruler of Tripoli that accomplished nothing except promising the return of US prisoners and betraying the legitimate and honorable prince.
How did we "win" in Vietnam? (Remember- "winning" is defined not in # of kills or ground taken, but in accomplishment of the objective.)
Who "wins" if the conflict is internal?
Dying while fighting for a worthy goal is honorable, but so is being honest. Being honest and intelligent is even better, and being those things plus knowing a little history is better still. As a soldier and leader, it behooves you to do so, even if it means not parroting and choosing to believe some ridiculous "HOOAH!" sloganeering, and further, being honest with yourself and others would appear to be a feature of both the "Integrity" and "Personal Courage" parts of the Army Values.
Hooah?
John
Honor is living up to the Army Values. It starts with being honest with ones self and being truthful and sincere in all of our actions.
It is excellent to be idealistic, and it's great to be motivated.
Knowing and speaking the truth is even more important.
Let me give you one quick example of a conflict the US in no way "won".
The Barbary Pirates had been a nuisance for years in the Mediterranean. In the early 1800s, not being satisfied with merely capturing US merchant vessels for ransom and enslaving their crew, they came to open conflict with all US vessels.
I'll make my summary quick: despite some few notable victories, the US suffered numerous defeats, including the loss of the USS Philadelphia on a reef at low tide. (All the captain had to do was wait for high tide- the surrounding pirate vessels' cannon were shorter-ranged; but, he surrendered.) Finally, with the rightful ruler in tow, a "combined" Arab-American-Greek force (those vaunted "shores of Tripoli" Marines were a mere handful) marched towards Tripoli, fighting a bloody battle at Derne. As they neared their objective, with increasing popular support among the indigenous people, the US representative paid to negotiate a peace with the ruler of Tripoli that accomplished nothing except promising the return of US prisoners and betraying the legitimate and honorable prince.
How did we "win" in Vietnam? (Remember- "winning" is defined not in # of kills or ground taken, but in accomplishment of the objective.)
Who "wins" if the conflict is internal?
Dying while fighting for a worthy goal is honorable, but so is being honest. Being honest and intelligent is even better, and being those things plus knowing a little history is better still. As a soldier and leader, it behooves you to do so, even if it means not parroting and choosing to believe some ridiculous "HOOAH!" sloganeering, and further, being honest with yourself and others would appear to be a feature of both the "Integrity" and "Personal Courage" parts of the Army Values.
Hooah?
John
Honor is living up to the Army Values. It starts with being honest with ones self and being truthful and sincere in all of our actions.
BWHAHAHAHA!!!!
Saint
66 honesty, 45 intelligence
You're not very bright, but at least you're open about it.
My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
You scored higher than 99% on honesty
You scored higher than 0% on intelligence
Be nice...it seems I am a retarded Saint.
Saint
66 honesty, 45 intelligence
You're not very bright, but at least you're open about it.
My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
You scored higher than 99% on honesty
You scored higher than 0% on intelligence
Be nice...it seems I am a retarded Saint.
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Greetings: John
This is J. W. Kilpatrick here. You are absolutely correct with the facts that you present. However, just because we get the tar kicked out of us and sometimes blown away, doesn't mean that they beat us. Us aggies always win. We never lose. We may have to patch up our wounds and put ourselves back together again and reorganize from time to time, but we never lose. If you don't believe it, go to the Texas A&M campus and ask any cadet in the corps if they ever get beat or defeated. Every one of them to a man will set you straight on this issue.
You simply need to join the corps at Texas A & M and they will get your thinking straightened out about whether aggies win or lose at whatever they do. When it comes to winning and losing, us aggies are a real positive thinking bunch.
About Vietnam, you are sure right about it being a real tough go. I lost 7 of my buddies over there. However, we still put the hurt on Charlie very badly. It just so happened that our nation decided to pull out before we could really do them in. You gotta look at things in a positive way, brother.
The ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam- the South Vietnamese) are the ones that got beat but not us Americans.
Hey John, you are alright, buddy. God bless you.
J. W. Kilpatrick
This is J. W. Kilpatrick here. You are absolutely correct with the facts that you present. However, just because we get the tar kicked out of us and sometimes blown away, doesn't mean that they beat us. Us aggies always win. We never lose. We may have to patch up our wounds and put ourselves back together again and reorganize from time to time, but we never lose. If you don't believe it, go to the Texas A&M campus and ask any cadet in the corps if they ever get beat or defeated. Every one of them to a man will set you straight on this issue.
You simply need to join the corps at Texas A & M and they will get your thinking straightened out about whether aggies win or lose at whatever they do. When it comes to winning and losing, us aggies are a real positive thinking bunch.
About Vietnam, you are sure right about it being a real tough go. I lost 7 of my buddies over there. However, we still put the hurt on Charlie very badly. It just so happened that our nation decided to pull out before we could really do them in. You gotta look at things in a positive way, brother.
The ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam- the South Vietnamese) are the ones that got beat but not us Americans.
Hey John, you are alright, buddy. God bless you.
J. W. Kilpatrick
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I'm wondering if this isn't a matter of semantics.
There are times when you've lost but were not beaten. You know that you lost, everyone else knows that you lost, but the guy that won? He has no desire to go for the best two out of three. Lost, sure, but not beaten.
Is this what we're discussing?
There are times when you've lost but were not beaten. You know that you lost, everyone else knows that you lost, but the guy that won? He has no desire to go for the best two out of three. Lost, sure, but not beaten.
Is this what we're discussing?
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Greetings: Satori
You got it right , Satori. It is like having the attitude "Never give up". I know that I sound a bit arrogant. However, you got to keep the morale of your men up, even when they are down. It is part of being a leader. Keep your chin up and keep going, when the going gets really tough. Grin and bear up under it all. You know what I mean , brother.
I know that I was being kind of crazy in playing around with John like I did. Please forgive me John. Next time you are in Texas come on by and I will let you take you best shot at me just for jerking you around like that. ( He, He, He).
However, basically this is how the military college that I attended taught us ( keep an undaunted spirit about oneself and never give up.)
Hey, you are all great Americans.
Crazy old coot, ain't I. However, I have had a lot of brain damage along the road of life. (He, He, He) I hope all you young men are in better mental and physical shape than I am when you all turn age 64. ( He, He, He)
J. W. Kilpatrick
You got it right , Satori. It is like having the attitude "Never give up". I know that I sound a bit arrogant. However, you got to keep the morale of your men up, even when they are down. It is part of being a leader. Keep your chin up and keep going, when the going gets really tough. Grin and bear up under it all. You know what I mean , brother.
I know that I was being kind of crazy in playing around with John like I did. Please forgive me John. Next time you are in Texas come on by and I will let you take you best shot at me just for jerking you around like that. ( He, He, He).
However, basically this is how the military college that I attended taught us ( keep an undaunted spirit about oneself and never give up.)
Hey, you are all great Americans.
Crazy old coot, ain't I. However, I have had a lot of brain damage along the road of life. (He, He, He) I hope all you young men are in better mental and physical shape than I am when you all turn age 64. ( He, He, He)
J. W. Kilpatrick
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I'm with you, JW. In Tripoli, for instance, we (America and her interests) were screwed by one politician who wanted his name in the history books.
He later killed himself.
When I was training with Bud in Atlanta, he'd say "Never stop fighting until the threat is over, or the lights go out."
Liberty and peace to you.
"Feet first!"
John
He later killed himself.
When I was training with Bud in Atlanta, he'd say "Never stop fighting until the threat is over, or the lights go out."
Liberty and peace to you.
"Feet first!"
John