Other Tactical Folders with carbide window breakers besides Mark I/II???

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For a while I've been looking at the MOD Mark II because I love the fact that it can be used while closed as an impact weapon. I am interested in a knife for SD and want something that can be effective when closed. I've heard people complain about some aspects of the MOD Mark II (and it's also at the very high-end of my price range). I was just curious if their were other folders out their like the Mark II that are built to be used as impact weapons, preferrably with the carbide window breaker. I did see that Jim Wagner has a knife like I described, but it is a bit larger than what I had been looking for. I know it sounds like I'm being extremely picky, which I most likely am, but I just thought what better place to get advice/recommendations then at this forum.

Thanks.
 
Some MicroTech (primarily OTF autos, I think) knives have glassbreakers.
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There's the Surefire Delta. But the glass breaker on it is 440C stainless at high hardness, not tungsten carbide.

Bear in mind that the Delta is designed as a tool first and weapon second, while the Mark II is the other way around.
 
I've also been looking for a non-auto folding knife with a glassbreaker and a seatbelt cutter. The closest i've seen is the Surefire Delta or one of the Sog Tridents but it's always doesn't have one or the other. Plus the Surefire Delta is out of my price range. Kind of weird how it's so hard to look for a folding knife with these specifications.

By the way, there's also the Boker Reality Based Blade(I think) that has the glassbreaker(not the seatbelt cutter, go figure). Not sure on what the glassbreaker is made out of though. It's a non-auto.
 
Thanks for the responses so far. The blade-tech knife looks interesting, though, I am looking more for a tactical knife than I am for a rescue knife. As for the Boker Reality-based knife, that's the Jim Wagner design that I was referring to earlier. I do like the knife, but it's just a little too big for what I'm looking for. I am still considering it, though.

I, too, like the seat belt cutter option. The new Microtech mini-socom is perfect, with the exception that it is an auto. They aren't making a manual version of it (and if I didn't mention it earlier, I'm looking for a manual). It was perfect, though, with the built in glass breaker and seat belt cutter.

If anyone has any more suggestions, they'd be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
The spyderco rescue with the blunt end comp edge has a glass breaker on the end of the handle. You deploy is by squeezing the the closed blade and handle together. That forces the glass breaker out the bottom and also give you a nice grip for smashing. A firefighter friend of mine has one and it works great.

No im wrong its the assist not the rescue that has the window breaker.
 
The new Benchmade Ally has a window breaker point on it. Kept catching my hand on it when clipped into my pocket...
 
This sounds like what you are looking for..it is a new version...

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If only that knife by Jim Wagner were a little smaller, I think it would be ideal.

Also, it's too bad that Kershaw didn't make the rescue Blur (which has a window breaker) with a tactical blade. I almost just want to buy both versions of the Blur and switch the blades.

Someone asked why a carbide window breaker. That's a good question. I've heard they are very effective, and I assume they make a great point for an impact weapon. Again, that's just my assumption.
 
The Benchmade ERT has a belt cutting blade only, but also a glass breaker. I don't know the model, but Smith and Wesson put out a knife with a retractable glass breaker and a seat belt cutting blade.
 
I dont think its that hard to break a passenger window. You can just push on a window witha screwdriver and it will break.
 
Umm, using the glass breaker as an impact weapon for SD.

There are a number of implied conditions that may exist predicated on that situation, none are clearly to your advantage, and most imply either a high degree of expertise in martial arts, or very little.

Given the historical trend to add skull crusher pommels to daggers in WWII, and the complete lack of documented success in use, I'd look the blade as a primary striking tool, which, as intimated, is a SHTF scenario. At this point, conditioned gross motor responses to put down the attacker have failed, and you're basically grappling with an opponent of equal skill. I'd look into enlarging your repetoire of skills before trusting on a chance of getting in a blow with the blunt impact end of a device with proven lack of overall stopping power. Your skills will be there when the knife may not.

The striker just may not be big enough to do sufficient damage to induce immediate shock, is what I'm saying. And I bet that's what is pointed out when medical data and experienced users chime in. The skull has to be penetrated, bone broken, and underlying tissue invaded sufficiently to trigger an autonomic reaction. It's why there is a three inch limit to pocket knives.

Skull crusher pommels can deliver that kind of affect properly applied, but as a SD tool, they are not often used, carried, or needed. As a first strike weapon on unwary persons, well, there better be an act of war signed, and the ROE agreeable. Glass breaker spikes aren't necessarily designed for that job.

Just part of the thoughts to weigh in this discussion.
 
Carbide is much harder than steel and IIRC harder than glass. To break tempered glass all you need to do is create a fracture and the pressure from inside the glass does the rest.

To Eyeeatingfish auto glass is much harder to break than you think. I have seen videos of people all out punching a window or hitting it with the butt of a knife with no effect on the glass at all.
 
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