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Lets say you are stuck in the woods. You got enough food for one day but you know you would be stuck for atlist four days. Here is my Q if you do eat some of the food each day. What time of the day would you eat??? in the evening to give your body extra calories to help you stay warm at night. Or would you eat it in the morning to help you cover the distance during the day.. How about lunch time not here or there??? For water i would drink some all the time. Its better to drink it now then keep it and get dehydrated.

Sasha
 
They say do NOT ration water. In other words, drink the proper amount, as long as you have some.

As far as food, I haven't heard nor read a rationale. Good Q.

One thing to bear in mind, you need water to digest the food, so don't wait until the water is running low to decide to eat.
 
If it was me it would depend upon whether or not I could sleep on an empty stomach. If I knew I would zonk out at night I would wait until morning.
 
I would eat what little I had depending on what I had to do. Here in Brazil they sell these little blocks of raw sugar. I tend to eat these at the start of a long climb and they give me energy. I would do somthing similar if rationing, eat something before hard work to keep from getting exhausted.

The cold/sleep problem is serious. In cold temps I chow down before bed. I wouldn't want to ration food in cold weather. Mac
 
at the end of last year my mom ended up in the hospitel the reason was she couldnt hold water down. She got so dehadrated she couldnt walk or anything. It didnt happen over night but took about a week. So i could realy see how bad she was getting. She would drink a cup of water and only a 1\4 of it would get in. So everyone thought she was drinking enough and she was maybe getting sick. Talking to a doctor about it he said that if you get water drink enough to feel good. If for any reason you get dehydrated it would take days and sometimes weeks to feel normal again. ( it mostly depands on your condition) . He said he treats alot of runners that dont drink enough and in the summer they just fall down when they get home after the run. Water dont do you any good in the pack.

Sasha
 
haha, that reminds me seeing triathalon'ers after there done, the body just shuts down.
 
For longterm carry I simply pack a unit or two of MAINSTAY survival rations. Another good one is DATEX. You have 9 blocks for 3 meals a day for 3 days . These rations provide an base caloric intake without requiring to much water for digestion. For shorterm I pack one of the most dietary complete and traditional survival foods ever devised- fruitcake. There are cogent arguments for all manner of eating timetables. If your in an already stressfull situation, possibly with others of less outdoors experience food is a powerfull placebo. Serving up 'breakfast,lunch and dinner,' even if it's a block of survival cake and a cup of tea is a powerfull tool to establish a little stability.
 
Hmmm, if I knew I was buggered for four days, limited chow and water. I'd focus on finding more water(1), building fire and shelter(2), then snares(3) etc. After a couple of days your stomach would shrink and it wouldn't take much to feal full. I would consider almost anything for food including insects. The situation would be frightening/stressful and the fire/shelter would calm me a bit.
 
Pict's Comment about the sugar blocks made me think of my 3 year old son. When he sugars up he's wound tight as a drum which is a blast to watch, but when he comes down he comes DOWN.
Using this logic and very little scientific evidence... toward the end of the day I would try to estimate how much longer I needed to stay active for that day. either walking or building shelter. I would try to use the energy the food would give me then as I would probably be wiped out. I would hope the "come down" would help me get to sleep.
I think once I found a place for the night, I would stop, eat and then commence with shelter building assuming that would take an hour or 2.
 
For longterm carry I simply pack a unit or two of MAINSTAY survival rations. Another good one is DATEX. You have 9 blocks for 3 meals a day for 3 days . These rations provide an base caloric intake without requiring to much water for digestion. For shorterm I pack one of the most dietary complete and traditional survival foods ever devised- fruitcake. There are cogent arguments for all manner of eating timetables. If your in an already stressfull situation, possibly with others of less outdoors experience food is a powerfull placebo. Serving up 'breakfast,lunch and dinner,' even if it's a block of survival cake and a cup of tea is a powerfull tool to establish a little stability.

Fruitcake - now that brings back memories. When I was in my teens, my mother would make me a huge fruitcake when I was off backpacking. Weighed a ton! I carried cartons of Byrd's custard as well. And chocolate. And smoked sausages. I could eat well for a week out of my sack before needing to find civilisation; a *very* difficult thing in Scotland (ducks and runs...). As my trek progressed, you would think my load would lighten. Unfortunately, I was into geology and usually replaced the eaten cake with rock samples.

As to when to eat, I have read a lot over the years that recommends an evening meal as a moral booster, especially if with others. I don't know if this would really have much effect on me in a survival situation; I tend to just get on with things and moral doesn't come into it. I can see the group aspect though, especially if with non-survival types. I certainly sleep a little better with a light supper inside me; carbohydrates (easy to digest) are supposed to be best here.

As a fitness and bodybuilding instructor, I was taught that breakfast is the most important meal to your body, and can certainly attest to my own lack of energy if I miss breakfast. I get headaches and start to feel sick and weak by lunch time if I'm working hard. I would certainly try to eat a little for breakfast, even if just planning to sit and wait for rescue.

As others have mentioned, water is far more critical and what you eat should be moderated by the water available. It takes at least twice as much water to digest proteins (like those tasty survival favourite, worms) and fats as it does for carbohydrates. Once you run out of water, don't eat the meat! Better to eat nothing for a few days than to use your body's precious water reserves digesting relatively un-needed proteins. Time to turn veggie and eat what the rabbits eat.

That's my theory on the matter, for what it's worth.

Rick.
 
Lets say you are stuck in the woods. You got enough food for one day but you know you would be stuck for atlist four days. Here is my Q if you do eat some of the food each day. What time of the day would you eat??? in the evening to give your body extra calories to help you stay warm at night. Or would you eat it in the morning to help you cover the distance during the day.. How about lunch time not here or there??? For water i would drink some all the time. Its better to drink it now then keep it and get dehydrated.

Sasha


I would ration my food for a time was I was very cold or if I "hit the wall" through exertion - assuming I was hydrated.

Ration sweat, not water.
 
I think i would have to ration it and eat it as needed, I have blood sugar issues and when my sugar drops Low I can feel it as I can when it gets too high, I would probably try to do as I do while hiking and eat little bits while moving, I dont know if i could ration four days out of one days supply but i would try to save at least something for an emergency if my sugar bottomed out, of course as many stated I would try to find ways to suppliment, Fishing trapping etc, But there is a chance this would be fruitless.

This is a really good Question.
 
As a fitness and bodybuilding instructor, I was taught that breakfast is the most important meal to your body, and can certainly attest to my own lack of energy if I miss breakfast. I get headaches and start to feel sick and weak by lunch time if I'm working hard. I would certainly try to eat a little for breakfast, even if just planning to sit and wait for rescue.


Rick.

As a recreational Bodybuilder and long time fitness guy, I agree 100%. But, in an ideal everyday life situation. Now for me personally, (just me, dunno about others) I can skip breakfast and lunch and not even get hungry until dinner time. Now if I'm on my diet, ie 6-8 smaller meals per day, I eat at 7am, by 10am I feel like I'm going to shrivel up and fall through my asshole and hang myself. Thats just me I guess, but my body can function well all day without any food as long as I don't start it off with food.
 
There were times when I was a stupid teenager when the only meal I ate was dinner(5-6pm). You know, after football practice.:rolleyes: So even though I have a problem with low blood sugar like mentioned above, my body is more out of wack if I eat a breakfast then if I skip it. I guess I would choose to eat a late lunch or nibbles here and there if I get the shakes.

Moral of the story though is you never know what works unless you try. Of course do it safely.
 
Lets say you are stuck in the woods. You got enough food for one day but you know you would be stuck for atlist four days. Here is my Q if you do eat some of the food each day. What time of the day would you eat???...

Good post Sasha! I would divide what food there is by 4 and then split each portion (each 1/4) again into quarters (1/16's?) and then consume the daily allotment four times each day (1/16 four times each day). This, and my (ample) body fat should tide me over. Just guessing and it's worth about $0.02. :)
 
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