Overkill

ron finkbeiner jr

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I have an Ultrafire light that I got as a gift from my older brother, it's a rechargeable but the batteries don't keep a charge worth a darn.I am still very thankful for the gift of light it was a very thoughtful and generous gift. Now, I was looking at a Surefire p3x fury as a replacement light. Is this Overkill?
 
No such thing as overkill !

Surefire make great lights, although im not too familiar with the newer models, i do have a bunch of older ones that are still kicking though.
 
Surefire's are not worth it, I'm a big collector of surefire stuff (way back to when they were "laser products") yet I don't own a single Surefire that was made in the last 10 years. They're just not worth it, in terms of light output, run-time and battery capability they are so sub-par to pretty much every other major brand.

Unless your dead set on your light saying "surefire" on the side of it (and hey that's totally cool if you are) do your self a favor and spent 1/2 the money and get 2X the light by going with pretty much any other major brand.

Some suggestions
Foursevens Quark series
EagleTac D25 series
Zebralight
Olight S series
Sunwayman V11R
Nitecore
Armytek
 
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Sure there are cheaper brands that beat Surefire in terms of brightness and battery life for the money. For my needs though, brightness and battery life are second to durability and overall quality. I have yet to find myself in a situation where my Surefire wasn't bright enough. Google some of those other brands and see if reports on quality are what you would want.
 
I have one foursevens quark (tactical QT2L-X) on my rifle that sees ~500 rounds a month and plenty of other abuse and my EDC Quark is a tool and it's treated as such, no pampering and very little care, it's been threw more than most people will ever do to their lights (and it wears the scars proudly) and neither have ever gave me so much as a faint flicker, they work exactly as intended, the tactical UI one has never forgot its programming threw >5k rounds down range . Eagletac and O-light (who are both related to Foursevens) are two other brands that I have 100% confidence in. Not saying anything negative about surefire, again I'm an avid collector and love everything they make (lights and all the "other stuff" too), but there is no reason not to trust one of the other leading brands just as much as surefire. Now I'm not saying replace your surefires with solarforce stuff, but there are plenty of other extremely high quality lights out there that can offer 100% dead nuts reliable service, BETTER performance- in terms of light output and regulation (run-time), and a just as good if not better warranty and do that at 1/2 or less the price.

Again I'm not saying some no-name budget light off eBay branded as "cree"> surefires, you have to be smart about it, but there several US based brands that mfg'd in china that have good enough QC that you absolute can trust your life to their lights and foursevens is one of them and I do trust my and my families life to multiple of their products (the one I EDC and more importantly the one on my HD carbine). I also equipped my wife with a single light (an Olight S15) so obviously since I don't have her carry a backup I must have pretty high confidence in it.
 
I don't care for CR123 batteries due to local cost and being tied to the internet for cheaper prices. I stick with AA. That being said, it is often a trade off between power and battery life. Not every task requires 200 lumens, and high lumans at night can ruin your night vision. Decide if you need a high power light and perhaps a small task light to cover both bases.

I own a Surefire G2 but replaced it with a 1W Norma light as my EDC. I have a smaller button cell light as a back up.
 
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