Oxygen Scavengers

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I've read about people using foil jackets with a bit of paper to burn off any oxygen for heat treating stainless steel and I was wondering if people have tried things along the same line but bigger?

for instance could you use a pipe with one end caped off and inserted into a gas forge with some newspaper inside to create a reducing indirectly heated environment for heat treating? a little more controlled than the direct blast of a gas furnace. would coal dust or a clean burning charcoal work better than paper? maybe even a short blast of shielding gas and a hinged lid to have a relatively inert environment?

I'm interested because back in the early days I did a little bronze casting in my furnace and after a spill or two it's a pretty contaminated environment once it gets up to heat. it's mostly cleaned out but with out replacing the insulation I can't quite get the last traces out and it scales real bad and interferes with forge welding. I was also hoping indirect heating would make it easier to control temperature for soaks.
 
You’re really kind of making a mountain out of a molehill. It’s not that big of a deal. Stainless foil works best IMO. I don’t use any paper or anything in with the blade. Just seal it up good, and throw it in. Even if there’s a hole, and oxygen gets in, it’s not the end of the world. It takes probably 20 seconds on the grinder to knock off any scale. Piece of cake really.
 
At 1900+° any exposed blade ( in a pipe it would still be exposed) would still oxidize. At that temperature the newspaper would burn away instantly … leaving the blade exposed.

I read about folks who put a piece of charcoal or paper in the forge and say it reduces scale/decarb/oxidation. I doubt it does more than make them feel like they are doing something.

The best way to control decarb at 1500-1600° is by having the flame adjusted to a reducing atmosphere.
The best way to control decarb at 1900+° is to seal the blade away from the air or to inject an inert gas continuously.
 
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