Packing Asprin

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Is there any problem with carrying a few aspirin tablets in a small plastic bag (Zip-Lok) type? I have a bunch of these bags that were probably intended for small parts and they are unused. I like the idea of being able to carry aspirin (and maybe, in another bag, some of prescription drug I take) in small, flat packs that would fit easily in my wallet or PSK, but am a bit concerned about possible interaction between the pills and this type of plastic.

Any advice most appreciated.
 
Yeah, I don't think I'd do it. Aspirin is fairly unstable and leaches out acetic acid. I would do this with ibuprofen instead if that is acceptable. I think it works better also.
 
maury said:
Is there any problem with carrying a few aspirin tablets in a small plastic bag (Zip-Lok) type? ...I like the idea of being able to carry aspirin (and maybe, in another bag, some of prescription drug I take)...
You can do it. Better with the enteric coated aspirin. As per prescription drugs, bad idea from a legal standpoint...your ziplock won't have your script label.
 
Powdered asprin packs flat, and the ziplock would not be in contact if you leave then in the wrappers. You can also get the tablets, capsules, and caplets in foil packs to ensure freshness and sanitation if you can't stand the powders.

Codger
 
LSkylizard said:
bad idea from a legal standpoint...your ziplock won't have your script label.


Don't know about the asprin, but as far as the prescription drugs, I'd have to say:
Plus one with LSkylizard. As a LEO, I can tell you that this is a real BAD Idea; read arrestable offense.

Jason
 
Junkyard said:
Don't know about the asprin, but as far as the prescription drugs, I'd have to say:
Plus one with LSkylizard. As a LEO, I can tell you that this is a real BAD Idea; read arrestable offense.

Jason

Are you serious? I am guessing that you are. Do you mean...that as a 50 year old guy...that I can't travel with my meds. in those daily pill organizers? That if stopped for some reason I am subject to arrest? That I need to take the original pill bottles along with me for all of my meds.? What the he_l has this Country come to anyway? Sorry for the rant...but this is ludicrous. :mad:

Jeff
 
devo55 said:
Are you serious?...Do you mean...that as a 50 year old guy...that I can't travel with my meds. in those daily pill organizers? That if stopped for some reason I am subject to arrest?...
Yes, prescription drugs mean you can not have it without one. Having prescription drugs without a prescription is a crime. Having said that, depending on what they find the LEO are often reasonable (hopefully). However, a little "ziplock baggy" with some pills...well, it can draw some serious concerns from LEO.
 
LSkylizard said:
Yes, prescription drugs mean you can not have it without one. Having prescription drugs without a prescription is a crime. Having said that, depending on what they find the LEO are often reasonable (hopefully). However, a little "ziplock baggy" with some pills...well, it can draw some serious concerns from LEO.

Yes, I understand and have presciptions for my meds. I just hate having to haul the 3-month supply prescription bottles when I am only staying at the beach for a week. This is all a legacy of our war on drugs I suppose. Wonderful. :barf:

Jeff
 
devo55 said:
Are you serious? I am guessing that you are. Do you mean...that as a 50 year old guy...that I can't travel with my meds. in those daily pill organizers? That if stopped for some reason I am subject to arrest? That I need to take the original pill bottles along with me for all of my meds.? What the he_l has this Country come to anyway? Sorry for the rant...but this is ludicrous. :mad:

Jeff


Yes I am serious. I disagree that it is ludicrous. In all of the states that I know of, it is illegal to possess a controlled substance...(prescription meds,) without a copy of the prescription. Remember that many prescription meds are stolen from or sold by the person with the prescription for re-sale on the black market. The individual Officer as well as your interaction with them will probably make a difference. In all my years as a LEO I have never arrested an individual that had their med in a daily pill organizer. Druggies and Criminals don’t usually use them. That said, I have always verified that the said individual did have a Rx for the meds in question, and informed them that it is still a crime to have the meds without a copy of the Rx. One suggestion is to bring a copy of the Rx, (there is usually a copy of on stapled to the bag from the pharmacy,) along with you, if you choose to carry your meds in that fashion. Doing this would make you righteous again.

As far as these laws being “ludicrous,” think about this:

Laws are intended to protect society and individuals, or to curb / stop a specific behavior. The way that they are written is complex enough, and cannot possibly allow for every scenario or situation that can occur. If you can do a better job, I’d be the first to offer my assistance to you, as well as commend you.

This is where the discretion of the Officer comes into play. I have found that there are two types of Officers. “Spirit of the law types;” and “Letter of the law types.” Using the above scenario, I will explain both.




“Spirit of the law type”

You are driving your vehicle and your tag expired three months ago. An Officer pulls you over, (probably just to tell you to get your tag taken care of,) and requests your Drivers license. You open your Maxpedition Fat boy to get your D/L and the Officer sees your pill organizer. He questions you about the pills. He asks if you have a prescription and you say that you do. The Officer takes custody of the meds, (which is legal I might add,) and verifies what type of meds they are. The Officer then requests a copy of your prescription. You, of course say: “I don’t have a copy of it, but I do have a prescription for those meds.”
(It is at this point that the main differences of the types of Officers will become noticeable.) The Officer asks you which Pharmacy you use as well as its location. The Officer will then contact that Pharmacy and verify your prescription. (All of this takes up the Officers Valuable time because of YOUR lack of adherence to the laws.) Once verified the Officer will most likely return your meds, explain the laws to you, give you the suggestion of carrying a copy of the prescription with you so you can avoid any future problems. This Officer will then most likely write you a written warning for your expired tag, (to justify to his/her supervisor what took so long, and why they don’t have someone in handcuffs.) Then you will be sent free to curse the officer, call him/her a pri_k, and complain that he/she should be out arresting real criminals instead of “harassing” you.
You might even go so far as to write a nasty letter to the chief about how you were mistreated and “Harassed” by this officer, causing the Officer any number of problems including possible suspension time and loss of pay, because Officers are held to a higher standard.





“Letter of the law type”

You are driving your vehicle and your tag expired three months ago. An Officer pulls you over, (probably to write you a ticket,) and requests your Drivers license. You open your Maxpedition Fat boy to get your D/L and the Officer sees your pill organizer. He questions you about the pills. He asks if you have a prescription and you say that you do. The Officer takes custody of the meds, (which is legal,) and verifies what type of meds they are. The Officer then requests a copy of your prescription. You, of course say: “I don’t have a copy of it, but I do have a prescription for those meds.”
This Officer smiles real big just before he/she pulls you from your vehicle, handcuffs you, and throws you in the back of the cruiser. He/she then has your vehicle towed to the impound, and completes the forfeiture paperwork, because the crime you DID commit is a felony, and your vehicle was used during the commission of a felony. You are transported to the holding facility where you get your one call, (usually collect,) to contact someone to post your $3000.00 bail and get you out. You try to call your significant other’s cell phone, but collect calls don’t work on cell phones. There goes your one call… Too Bad. When, after enough begging, the corrections officer lets you try again, (usually the next day,) you call your home to find that no one is home. After a few days in lock-up, your significant other tries to report you missing only to be told by the responding officer “He’s not missing. He’s in jail for felony drug possession.” When you finally do post bail, you are issued a $300.00 citation for the expired tag on your corvette, which coincidentally is not yours anymore. All this only to find out that if you are convicted, your can no longer vote or own firearms or certain knives. You try to complain to the Chief about how you were wrongfully arrested and mistreated, and are laughed at, and told that the Officer has been made “Officer of the Year” because of his excellent work in drug interdiction, and the amazing number of arrests he/she has made, which makes the streets safer for all of the decent citizens; unlike yourself.



The latter example is obviously extreme, but possible because you violated the law.

No offense is intended or directed at anyone, just wanted to illustrate what could happen.

Jason
 
why are there smilies in my last post? I did not put them there, and I cannot get them out.

Jason

Nevermind, I got them.
 
For a few loose pills by an otherwise lawful citizen should be no problem if the cop has an ounce of common sense.

If not they need a harassment lawsuits until they grow some common sense.

SKam
 
Notice, Our friendly neighborhood LEO said that you had to have a copy of the perscription, not the three month supply bottle with the label on it. Just stick the slip of paper in your wallet, and your pills, (In your organizer, for added veracity.) and your good to go. ;)

Nice.

Lunumbra
 
WayneH said:
...vitamin tablets and you DON'T need a prescription?...
Your question is self-answerring. If you don't need a script then you don't need a script...however, any unidentified pills in a ziplock baggy will attract attention of a LEO.
 
skammer said:
For a few loose pills by an otherwise lawful citizen...
If they are prescription meds and you have no script, you are NOT a lawful citizen...that is just the law, sorry, take it up with your congress person.
 
skammer said:
For a few loose pills by an otherwise lawful citizen should be no problem if the cop has an ounce of common sense.

If not they need a harassment lawsuits until they grow some common sense.

SKam


Skam,
You missed the point. That is the way the laws are written, and the individual is not "law abiding" in this circumstance. A harassment lawsuit would have no benefit to the "perpatrator" as he actually did break the law.
He would loose the suit, have attorney's fees,as well as court costs; and could open himself up to a counter suit from the Officer. That being said, I do think that it is "Morally" wrong for any LEO to do that to someone that is normally law abiding, and didn't realize that what he / she did was against the law. If you re-read my post, I tried to imply that I am a "Spirit of the Law" kind of LEO.
 
LSkylizard said:
Your question is self-answerring. If you don't need a script then you don't need a script...however, any unidentified pills in a ziplock baggy will attract attention of a LEO.


You couldn't be more correct.
Jason
 
Gee, all I asked about was carrying a coupla asprin and one or two lipitor (for colestrol).

Ps: As an Auxiliary Police Officer with over 25 years experience in New York City, I think I can say with reasonable certantinty that the chances of being busted for a baggie with one or two heart meds (without there being any other "crime" being involved) is pretty much on the down side here. Maybe in Dip$hitte Iowa this is a serious offence against the Laws of The Land, but fortunately it has been my experience dealing with officers frrom all over the country (and many parts of the world) , that the vast majority of LEO's are reasonable, responsible professionals who don't have the time or inclination for such behavior.

Sure, there are going to ber stories about the bad eggs, but what job dosen't have a few of those?

Hmmmm, all this on account of I wanted to carry a coupla asprin......... OK, I will buy the foil packet!!!
 
Junkyard said:
That is the way the laws are written, and the individual is not "law abiding" in this circumstance.

That would be why "otherwise lawful" was used, indicating that action isn't but other behavior should be considered in the situation that an actual case was made against it. Not something I would be concerned about for a *survival* kit anyway. A pretty idiotic law because the script bottles can be printed on any computer and the pills don't identify them (not here anyway) so you can put nearly any pill in any bottle so the only meaningful thing would be the actual prescription. I don't know of anyone locally who carries them and know lots of people who need medication. In fact I have even seen them stopped at an airport and taken out and inspected. Maybe the law is different here, we do have our share of idiotic laws as well though.

-Cliff
 
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