My second packrat just came in and I just love them more and more. Just feels sturdy, fast, so much belly... And all for under $40. I love the high flat grind, the way it jumps open when you caress its flipper, the rough but not cold steel sandpaper g-10. It even has steel liners for the ones who like it. Edc, fun, fast, USA made, super sharp, flat ground............ if you are on the edge get one, you will not regret it.