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Hi everyone. I'm thinking about purchasing a Maxpedition Mosoon Gearslinger, Fanlcon II, or a Pigmy pack for day hikes and even over night trips. I would really like some input and maybe a few pics on your uses with it. Thanks.
 
I'll probably get flamed for this but I don't think anything Maxpad carry's is suitable for an overnight stay, or any long distance hike for that matter.. they're simply not made for comfort.......

now if you want function and not tactikewl performance there are many to choose from for around $100 with internal frames and support for a typical 30-40lb trek that you can climb and hike for miles, you'll die trying that with a maxi..
 
yeah I was thinking the same thing. I was also looking at the Kelty Redwing. I do have to say that I am really liking the Maxped Monsoon gearslinger for family outings around the city or family parks though.
 
I carry a "bookbag" similar in size to a Kelty Redwing and it's just about right. To be honest, i got my current pack free from a bud, but i nearly bought a Redwing 2 years ago.

Honestly, if my current didn't have such a sweet price, i'd be sporting a Redwing right now!

Tactikewl is just that - mostly kewl (and expensive). Yes, good quality materials (unnecessarily heavy) and workmanship, but lack the structure needed to carry any significant weight for any distance comfortably. And yes, comfort does matter - especially if you've gotta travel on your LPC's for a few days. Thats why the ALICE frame went the way of the Dodo - it hurt like a b@$t@&d on long ruck marches. Why? Ancient/ignorant designs....
 
I owned a sitka gearslinger, and even with a pack that small, i found myself uncomfortable with the single shoulder carry. I sold it and am switching to a vulture 2.
 
Agree. Maxpedition typically makes urban carry packs with a military flavor and dividers, organizers, and small pockets that don't accomodate much in the way of outdoor gear, or more than minimal loads due to a lack of framing and support.
You'll need to have your gear together before being able to choose a pack that's best suited to carrying it, anyway.
 
I carry a maxped lunada around town. It works well for urban carry, although I'm becoming less of a fan of the "tacticool" styling.

I just ordered one of these for backpacking:

http://www.mollymacpack.com/pack.html

Going to use it for everything from over-nighters to up to a week backpack trip. Can also use it for day trips if I'm carrying a bunch of camera gear. Very versatile.
 
I have a Mong Versipack that I use as a range bag, and a Fatboy for hikes and trips. Maxpedition makes great stuff.
 
I guess I'll be the first to say I enjoy using Maxpedition packs for this, at least, the day hike part:

[...]day hikes and even over night trips[...]

I've used the Falcon-II, Pygmy Falcon, and Condor-II for hiking. My personal favorite is the Falcon-II. In fact, I actually bought another after selling my first and trying a few other packs in between (camelbaks, osprey.... Still want to try others, like gregory, mountainsmith, kelty, etc.)

I use my Falcon-II for day-hiking, and it's packed such that I would be better equipped to survive a night (or a few nights) out unexpectedly. Would I want to use it as a dedicated overnight pack? I could probably squeeze in a minimal set-up that'll still make for a decently comfortable camp in temperate weather... but realistically, no, not large enough for the things I'd like to take. And I have to agree: I wouldn't want to haul 30-40lbs or more over 10 or more miles of terrain with decent elevation changes. I'd take an Osprey or the like for that. Functioning waist/hip-belt + frame + harness and straps adjustability = comfort with long treks under load.

BUT, for the niche it fills for me, it's great. I haven't gotten into backpacking yet, but even when I do, I'm reasonably sure I'll still day hike more than I backpack. The pack is perfect for me in a use-often, day hike role. I could care less about the military styling, but it's very durable, well-constructed, and well organized (subjective value). I like those qualities. I take care of my gear and don't do many crazy things, but it's nice to know I can be rough with the pack if needed, and that it'll last me a LONG time. And, I'm an "everything in its place" kinda guy, so the organized nature of Maxpedition packs appeals to me.

As for day hiking, I know I can carry 20-25lbs in it (dropping down to 12 with water and food consumption) over 11-12 miles of hilly terrain and not feel uncomfortable at the end of it - even without a frame and functioning waist-belt. And I'm confident I can do it over and over again for at least a few years without noticeable wear on the pack. Furthermore, I can go off trail, squeeze through tight spots, fall and scrape along in a slide, or throw the pack about without worrying about tearing it up or otherwise damaging it. I have been EDC-ing a Pygmy Faclon in commuting to and from work every week day for the last year, and the only wear I've noticed on it is that the padding on my right shoulder strap is no longer springy (I often just shoulder carry with that strap). That's it. I don't claim to have tons of experience with other packs (that'd be expensive :D), but few of the other packs I've used or handled have inspired that kind of confidence for me. Also, I tend to think that the sort of things I'd do while day hiking would wear more on a pack than the sort of things I'd do while carrying a full backpacking load. Even if they're the same sort, my dayhiking pack would get a lot more of it.

If I were rich or inclined to stop buying knives and save up for it :o, I'd look to get a Kifaru. Based on what I've read here and elsewhere, it seems they've succeeded in putting together stuff that's BOTH durable and comfortable. In the meantime, Maxpedition's price is more doable for me. And it's not my only pack. I currently use a Golite Rush when it's a short hike or I want to go light and fast, and I plan to pick up another Osprey down the line for overnighter/short backpacking trips.:thumbup:


This is a pic of my original Falcon-II in use. I just bought another one. I've sinced learned that attaching stuff to the MOLLE isn't for me. It affects my balance too much, especially if you mount pouches on the front of the pack vs. the sides. I can take pics later of my current loadout if you want an idea of what a Falcon-II can hold.:thumbup:

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I have a maxped pygmy falcon... it's good for what it is; a heavy duty backpack that doesn't have enough space for anything more than a day trip. Easy access to water bottles, room for a small bladder if you wanted.

If that's all you need it for, and you're pretty hard on a pack... it's a good choice.

But if you need to carry enough for an overnight (or longer), look into something more outdoorsy and less tactical.
 
I have a Monsoon, and love it. I'm thinking of giving it a try for a light, fast overnight when the weather is warmer, just to see how it does, and just to see if I can trim my gear down enough to fit in it. It definitely doesn't have the capacity for a cold weather trip for me. In the end, I think I'm going to find that what has already been said by others will hold true for me too. . . I don't think it's really going to be suitable for an overnight bag, or for longer day hikes. I think it will be great for shorter trips, loaded with enough to keep you alive, but not necessarily comfortable if something happens and you get stuck in the woods for a night. I could end up being totally wrong on all of this, but I'll have to wait for warmer weather to try it out.
 
I'm not sure that I understand your needs fully but a good inexpensive overnight pack is the LL Bean Continental Rucksack. It goes on sale for $30 with free shipping.

It's equal to anything the tacticool brands make but it doesn't scream I'm a survivalist and come get my gear!
 
I'll probably get flamed for this but I don't think anything Maxpad carry's is suitable for an overnight stay, or any long distance hike for that matter.. they're simply not made for comfort.......

now if you want function and not tactikewl performance there are many to choose from for around $100 with internal frames and support for a typical 30-40lb trek that you can climb and hike for miles, you'll die trying that with a maxi..

I agree.

I do not hike with a day pack.
I much prefer a good 3000 cu in / 50 liter bag.
I will have the comfort, quality and space I need.
 
I've been doing overnighters for a while now. I was wondering if anyone could point my in the right direction on pack size etc.

How much volume would be required for a 3 day hike verses a 5 day trek?

I've been looking at Kifaru Mystery Ranch and Eberlestock and have been having a hard time deciding which pack is for me.

I'm currently using a Snugpak rocket pack which is 70litres (40 litres central ruck plus two 15litre pods on each side). It's great for what it is but the waist belt is not load bearing so all the weight is on the shoulders.
 
That would depend on the volume of whatever's going in the pack, wouldn't it?

Trying to figure out how much weight and volume I'll need for three days food and water. All my other gear, hammock, tarp and TQ & UQ, utilities like knife, torch etc fits easily into my rocket pack. Just wondering how much most people take and weigh if they are going for 3-5 days.
 
You've got a lot of variables in there. With some gear I can happily get three days out of a 50 litre pack. On the other hand here's what 10 litres of water does to this 50 litre pack.

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That was for demo in a different thread I wouldn't carry that all at once 'cos I use a filter. But where at some times I could get three days out of that another guy might get a day.

Then there all your winter gear that tends to be bulky if not heavy vs summer where I don't need much more than what I'm standing in and a bivvy bag.

Weight varies a lot with me. Sometimes I'll keep it modest and around 30 lbs that's going to remain constant. Other times I'll happily start at 40 lbs in the knowledge that I've brought luxury foods for the first night and first breakfast and a couple of litres of vodka. That extra weight wont be there on day two. I'll happily carry 50-60 lbs in mah one of these on a open ended trip.
 
I agree, packs made for backpacking are going to be much better when you plan to actually cover large distances each day. Everybody is different in how much gear they carry/need and how much gear they can carry. I don't carry a lot of gear, but for anything over a day or two, I go with the biggest pack I can comfortably handle.

I have a Gregory Palisade 80 (large) in the gear trade section if anyone is interested.
 
Trying to figure out how much weight and volume I'll need for three days food and water. All my other gear, hammock, tarp and TQ & UQ, utilities like knife, torch etc fits easily into my rocket pack. Just wondering how much most people take and weigh if they are going for 3-5 days.

depends :)

this was a four day trip, my pack (excluding food/water) was right at 6 lbs, w/ food & water ~ 14 lbs- this is a pretty spartan setup to be sure

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more typical, a 45 liter pack for 3-5 day trips (this trip was actually a 7 day trip)

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it ultimately depends on what and how much your carrying, including water needs, to determine what size pack
 
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