Pain management breakthrough

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FLACOMAN

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After being "on the fence " with trying topical morphine for my creaky knees , I went ahead and gave it a shot. The results have been very good , not perfect ,but definitely worth the effort. If anyone else needs more info, let me know

Regards
Jorge
 
Well that's great Jorge, but what did you give a shot?
Doesn't really matter as the pain relief is what's important but I for one would like to know what was done. ;) :)



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Yvsa :
Basically the topical morphine is as it sounds ; a lotion rubbed into the creaky part. In this case, we started with 60mg mixed into 20 g of cold cream. Worked some , but was not concentrated enough. After a little fiddling, I tried 60mg in 10g liniment and found it to work well enough to extend my dosing out another two hours. The nice part about this is that you're using a lot less mediciation , and there's no systemic effects (dizziness constipation etc.)
Hope this clarifies a little
Jorge
 
A touch of DMSO would make the amount needed even less.

Onether one to try: MMS, glucosamine, chondroitine sulfate.

TLM
 
TLM said:
Onether one to try: MMS, glucosamine, chondroitine sulfate.
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Glucosamine chondroitine worked wonders for me...until I did some reading about how exactly it was supposed to work, and how little evidence supported its advertised effects.

"That's not going to work!" I said, and it never did again. :)
 
Glucosamine chondroitine worked wonders for me...until I did some reading about how exactly it was supposed to work, and how little evidence supported its advertised effects.
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Pain -like arthritis- seem to have more than one cause. This trio works for me wonderfully. As you said, most research does not give positive results on ostheo arthritis. But in none of the ones I have read have they tried it on some of the smaller causes. Also MSM is not included in all formulations, it is a well known anti-inflammatory agent.

Problem with DMSO is that you end up absorbing the morphine into your bloodstream
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Just some of it. If the topical application is going to do anything, some of the morphine is going to be absorbed.

TLM
 
FLACOMAN said:
Yvsa :
Basically the topical morphine is as it sounds ; a lotion rubbed into the creaky part. In this case, we started with 60mg mixed into 20 g of cold cream. Worked some , but was not concentrated enough. After a little fiddling, I tried 60mg in 10g liniment and found it to work well enough to extend my dosing out another two hours. The nice part about this is that you're using a lot less mediciation , and there's no systemic effects (dizziness constipation etc.)
Hope this clarifies a little
Jorge
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Thanks Jorge, I understand now but it took me checking out some of your old threads/posts from the past.
I think it was the first time we ever talked about your creaky knees I recommended the Synvisc to you and you said you had tried it and it was about time for another, "grease job." ;) :)

So in that case are you still getting the Synvisc injections and if so when are you due for another round? I've never tried the topical meds but I know some folks who have, it works for some, doesn't for others..... :( The best I can recall you can get the Synvisc either once every three months or four although I'm pretty sure it's three so you can get four rounds of it a year. Some things you just gotta stick with for 'em too work, Synvisc is one of 'em. ;) :D :thumbup: :cool:


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Synvisc is good (PRICY!) stuff ,but you can't do it too often. Gonna hafta see the ortho to get a fresh lube job. Hurts like the dickens but you get about a year or two's worth. My medic does a series of five shots and turns you loose. I can't imagined getting harpooned like that every three months! Holler at your medic and give the topical a shot

regards
Jorge
 
HI All,
Sandy and I have found that taking D-Phenylalanine helps to reduce the dose of Meds that one needs to take for Chronic Intractable Pain.



"D-phenylalanine (but not L-phenylalanine) has been proposed to treat chronic pain. It blocks enkephalinase, an enzyme that may act to increase pain levels in the body.

The enzyme enkephalinase breaks down enkephalins, naturally occurring substances that reduce pain. D-phenylalanine (but not L-phenylalanine) is thought to block enkephalinase; this could lead to increased enkephalin levels, which in turn would tend to reduce pain. On this basis, D-phenylalanine has been proposed as a pain-killing drug."



((http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetC...03-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=21664))


With Best Regards,
Ed n Sandy
 
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