Para 2 blade play extravaganza

spikedog · Dec 30, 2010

So I just got a para-2 on a trade. The blade was loose, but I thought I could tighten it with the appropriate torq wrench. The pivot was as if it had been locktited into a loose position. I tightened it, but fuc%ed stripped the pivot screw in doing so.

The knife is looser then a (use your imagination). What sould I do? I have 3 para 1's and am ready to just throw this in the trash and fuck spyyderco.

Jim

Sal you got a bad one!!!

Is this the seller's problem -- or is this knife defective? I am willing to send it back, or just throw it in the burner as a bad choice in knives.

Waiting for a responcse from somesome who can fix it -- or wish me luck for destroying it. At this point I don't care!!!

JNewell · Dec 30, 2010

spikedog said:
So I just got a para-2 on a trade. The blade was loose, but I thought I could tighten it with the appropriate torq wrench. The pivot was as if it had been locktited into a loose position. I tightened it, but fuc%ed stripped the pivot screw in doing so.

The knife is looser then a (use your imagination). What sould I do? I have 3 para 1's and am ready to just throw this in the trash and fuck spyyderco.

Jim

Sal you got a bad one!!!

Is this the seller's problem -- or is this knife defective? I am willing to send it back, or just throw it in the burner as a bad choice in knives.

Waiting for a responcse from somesome who can fix it -- or wish me luck for destroying it. At this point I don't care!!!

spikedog said:
is there bleade play? and can you adjust it.
not my Para2 -- it's in the trash

My take, based on your posts, is that the knife was originally a little loose at the pivot. Two of mine were. I used a correctly sized Torx driver and was able to break the thread lock compound and adjust them to suit me. At this point it sounds like your problem is user-caused, but if you throw it in the mail to Spyderco rather than in the trash, they might take care of it as a W&R matter. It's worth the (toll free) call.

SuzukiGS750EZ · Dec 30, 2010

Try slamming in a bigger torx, or tapping in an allen wrench of appropriate size. Then just find yourself a new pivot. It's worked for me many times on my bike and a few times on a knife.

D1omedes · Dec 30, 2010

I'd recommend not destroying the knife. If it can be fixed, I'm sure Spyderco will do that for you (the most they'll charge you is $20). They have good customer service in Golden. I think you should give them a call first.

riz_aaroni · Dec 30, 2010

JNewell said:
My take, based on your posts, is that the knife was originally a little loose at the pivot. Two of mine were. I used a correctly sized Torx driver and was able to break the thread lock compound and adjust them to suit me. At this point it sounds like your problem is user-caused, but if you throw it in the mail to Spyderco rather than in the trash, they might take care of it as a W&R matter. It's worth the (toll free) call.

+1 No clue why you literally through the knife out when you can have the fix it, most likely for free. Hell, even if it is a small sum, why not?

FlaMtnBkr · Dec 30, 2010

If you think a stripped screw is a reason to trash a knife I would be happy to take the piece of useless junk. Take some deep breaths and relax. Also, Spyderco didn't strip the screw. And the previous owner could have loosened the pivot. Sounds like the only one to be upset with is yourself. Just saying.

softrockrenegade · Dec 30, 2010

Did the threads on the screw strip or did the torx head strip? It's usually due to operator error when the torx head strips (wrong size,or not seated correctly)

spikedog · Dec 30, 2010

I did use the correct size. I have contacted both the seller and Sal.

If a solution is not reached, I will sell the ($%^$^) on the exchange for $1.

Jim

Noddy · Dec 30, 2010

Dip the knife in hot water for a while before trying to get a loctite screw out - it will soften the stuff. Then go firmly but slowly with the right sized bit

riz_aaroni · Dec 30, 2010

spikedog said:
I did use the correct size. I have contacted both the seller and Sal.

If a solution is not reached, I will sell the ($%^$^) on the exchange for $1.

Jim

Send it hereith if it comes to that.

Noddy said:
Dip the knife in hot water for a while before trying to get a loctite screw out - it will soften the stuff. Then go firmly but slowly with the right sized bit

Seems like sound advice, will have to remember that.

spikedog · Dec 30, 2010

softrockrenegade said:
Did the threads on the screw strip or did the torx head strip? It's usually due to operator error when the torx head strips (wrong size,or not seated correctly)

As a mechanical engineer, with a master's degree, I don't think I am using the wrong size.

I'm just blowing off steam. I will probably modify the lock so it's solid and forget it

Jim

timbo114 · Dec 30, 2010

spikedog said:
I did use the correct size. I have contacted both the seller and Sal.

If a solution is not reached, I will sell the ($%^$^) on the exchange for $1.

Jim

I'll go $10 for it. I've got some extra pivots here somewhere.

softrockrenegade · Dec 30, 2010

spikedog said:
As a mechanical engineer, with a master's degree, I don't think I am using the wrong size.

I'm just blowing off steam. I will probably modify the lock so it's solid and forget it

Jim

Ahhh that explains everything !!!! Engineers are awful with the tools

JK !!
Anyway it def sucks but like others have said , send it in to spyderco and at no cost you will get a perfect knife back !!!good luck!!!

NDJeep · Dec 30, 2010

spikedog said:
....The pivot was as if it had been locktited into a loose position. I tightened it, but fuc%ed stripped the pivot screw in doing so.....

This is confusing.

Did it ever tighten up as you tried to tighten it? Did you over-tighten?

How does it go from loose to stripped without user error from over-tightening?

Not dogging ya...weird stuff happens...just dont understand exactly.

RevDevil · Dec 30, 2010

Funny, my boss is old electrical engineer, has a PhD in mathematics and studied the effects of lightning on electronics and grounding solutions. Funny thing is that most (not all) engineers think it's everyone elses fault but their own when the SHTF.
Would this not be the sellers fault? You never know what happens to a knife before you receive it, especially in a trade scenario. Just sayin.

amflud · Dec 30, 2010

RevDevil said:
Funny, my boss is old electrical engineer, has a PhD in mathematics and studied the effects of lightning on electronics and grounding solutions. Funny thing is that most (not all) engineers think it's everyone elses fault but their own when the SHTF.

Hilarious! This describes my father in law to a T. Electrical engineer retired from NASA. When he finally accepts that he's wrong it's always because something wasn't fully explained to him or for a similar reason.

I hope you find a resolution on the knife without having to trash it.

Peales · Dec 30, 2010

I think that you should try running it over with a truck, you might feel better about it and who knows, it just might tighten it up a bit.

elkins45 · Dec 30, 2010

spikedog said:
am ready to just throw this in the trash and f*** spyyderco.

I'm pretty confident this isn't the best way to get a company to go the extra mile for you. Just my opinion.

What stripped. the internal pivot threads or the screw head of the pivot?

JNewell · Dec 30, 2010

I doubt that it's the seller's fault, though we can't say for sure. The Para2s I've got here are all exceptionally firmly bonded with thread locker.

RevDevil said:
Funny, my boss is old electrical engineer, has a PhD in mathematics and studied the effects of lightning on electronics and grounding solutions. Funny thing is that most (not all) engineers think it's everyone elses fault but their own when the SHTF.
Would this not be the sellers fault? You never know what happens to a knife before you receive it, especially in a trade scenario. Just sayin.

Vic303 · Dec 31, 2010

I'll go $20 for it. Seriously.