Para or G10 Endura?

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I'm looking to pick up a work knife to be a moderately hard user around the shop, and have been looking between the spyderco para and endura, though I can't decide which direction to lean on this one.
Any recommendations or impressions of these knives? I'm also open to pretty much any other folder in the same general price range if you guys have thoughts on that too.
Thanks
 
I would say the G-10 Endura. It's similar to the Police model but smaller and I for one never cared for the lock mech on the Para. Both are quality knives and I doubt you could go wrong with either one for normal use.
 
Never had an endura, but had a SS Delica so...

I'd go with the Para. The finger choil is a nice design feature to me (you can have a finger very close to the actual cutting edge) and I abso-freakin-lutely love the nested compression lock. Very smooth opening/closing. That being said, you can't go wrong with an Endura. Best of luck in your decision...it's fun, isn't? :D
 
ParaParaPara here :p I have modified handle a bit and the knife became my favorite user. Endura with G-10 is great, but Paramilitary is lighter, faster and smother in operation. Locking is just great:thumbup:

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I have both of these knives. The Endura's G10 handle, with full stainless liners (not nested, as with the FRN Endura), is very beefy-feeling compared to the FRN version. I LIKE THAT. The one issue that I have with my G10 Endura is that it came with a very obtuse edge bevel on the VG-10 blade. Not sure if that was a fluke on Spyderco's part, but it's the only Spyderco I've purchased that couldn't shave hair out of the box. I ended up swapping out that blade from the handle, and replacing it with the combo-edged blade from my FRN Endura. I'll get around to reprofiling and sharpening the original FFG (full flat grind) blade at some later time.

I have two of the Para's. One is S30V, the other is in D2 (with the green G10 handle, like the Endura). The blades on both came with WICKEDLY SHARP edges out-of-the-box. Also have 3 of the full size Military models, all in S30V. They too came with outstanding edges. Based on all comments I've ever read in BF and elsewhere, the wickedly sharp edge has become a hallmark of the Military/ParaMilitary series from Spyderco.

At first, I was a little uncertain about the looks and locking mechanism on the Para. But, the more I carry it, the more I like it (I think you'll hear a lot of similar sentiments on BF regarding the Para). It's all about ergonomics and functionality with the Para (and the Military). I've come to view the steels used (S30V, D2) in the Para more favorably than any other in a production folder. They've never failed to impress me with regard to how sharp you can get 'em. The VG-10 is also good in the Endura, but I think the S30V is my favorite overall.

The Endura will allow repositioning of the clip (tip up, tip down, left or right), whereas the Para doesn't allow that (it's fixed at right side, tip down). Also, the Endura is a 'conventional' lockback (mid-lock), whereas the Para does use that unique 'compression lock'. Some like it, and some don't. I've come to think it's perfectly fine for me. And I get the impression that it will be very strong, little or no chance of accidently dis-engaging it.

FYI, the company that produces the CPM-S30V and CPM-D2 steels (Crucible) is just now entering Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection (that's a whole new thread topic in itself). Their plant will eventually be shut down and/or sold off. So, at least in my mind, there may be some question as to how long these steels will continue to be available. Might be worth getting what you can now, if that concerns you...

And, if this matters to you, the Para is American made (Golden, CO). The Endura is Japanese made (Seki City). They're both well done...
 
The think the Endura's tip will be tougher but I like the Para's overall design better. My vote goes to the Para.

Endura:
Stronger tip
Better detent
Longer blade if that's what you're looking for
4 way clip placement
Ambidextrous lock
Not as noticeable in the pocket
Clip is designed to not scratch as much stuff

Para:
Better ergos (for me)
Arguably better edge retention
I like the compression lock better, though some have complained that it's not lefty friendly.
I prefer the blade to handle ratio
Lighter
Finger choil
 
Nice pics, the modded para looks really nice. At this point, I'm kinda leaning towards the para, not too big of a fan of the tip down carry, but I don't think its a deal breaker for me. I'll have to handle both at the shop, but I have a feeling I'm going to be leaving with the para.
Thanks for the input, much appreciated.
 
Out of the two I'd choose the para. I don't prefer the lock on the endura.

However, the para has a rather delicate tip. Depending on what you intend to do with it, it may be perfectly fine or it may be a little thin. As a fallback, check out the Manix 2.
 
I have a FRN handled Endura and a S30v Para. My vote goes to the Para, its lighter in the pocket and the blade length is perfect for my needs. I was a little skeptical at first about the tip, but after carrying it for a year I now have full faith in this tip. Just remember its not a sharpened pry bar. I find this blade easy to keep sharp on the sharpmaker, I touch it up every few days on the white rods. I just got my tip up lowrider clip from STR and now it truely is the perfect knife. You can check out pics of my knife on his sub forum.
 
Id go for the para. It is a great knife. As an alternative id suggest the bm 710--another around the same size and is a very nice user
 
I think it depends on whether you need more blade or not. Although the Para's a med/lg. folder, the blade's less than 3 1/8" vs the Endura's 3.75" blade, big difference if you need more blade.

The Para's lighter & I think more ergonomic, plus it has the choil. Have you thought about the Manix 2? More blade than the Para & you still get a choil, plus the lock's ambidextrous & I don't think it'll develop the play that lock-backs seem to get after time. The only issue would be that it's not a FFG blade.
 
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I don't know if you use gloves in your shop, but the Para was designed with an oversized hole, robust handle, and higher riding clip for use with gloves.
 
E4 for a bigger blade, Para for a smaller one. That would ultimately be the deciding factor for me.
 
ParaParaPara here :p I have modified handle a bit and the knife became my favorite user. Endura with G-10 is great, but Paramilitary is lighter, faster and smother in operation. Locking is just great:thumbup:
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What a beautiful handle mod you did on that Para!!:eek::thumbup::thumbup:

Regards,
3G
 
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